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dawg

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39. This was nothing to do with Amina.

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:18 PM

Mar 2013

This was about some of my fellow DU'ers being offended by the wording of the article about women getting their "tits" out.

I can understand why they found that offensive.

But instead of having a rational debate, other DU'ers posted a wall of topless images "supporting" Amina and other attractive young female protesters.

I found that offensive. I took it as rubbing it in the faces of some of my friends and I did not like it one little bit.

So then we got a wall of wieners in retaliation.

Both posts should have been hidden. This isn't the place for this, although I guess that is ultimately up to Skinner.

I think we should treat each other with more kindness. We are sisters and brothers, and we are all deserving of respect.

This was not about Amina, or criticizing her, at all.

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I find it very interesting that people with first world problems [View all] cliffordu Mar 2013 OP

I wish I could recommend this more than once nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #1

Thanks, kiddo - cliffordu Mar 2013 #5

I got your number two, Nadin. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #123

Thanks, my friend. cliffordu Mar 2013 #212

+1000 Cleita Mar 2013 #2

Thanks - cliffordu Mar 2013 #6

All those women, who have been participating in the Arab spring demonstrations Cleita Mar 2013 #41

Me too. My god. Me too. cliffordu Mar 2013 #58

People on Facebook can sign this petition... Kurovski Mar 2013 #176

Just did it. THANKS FOR THE LINK. cliffordu Mar 2013 #211

Excellent post Richardo Mar 2013 #3

Thanks. cliffordu Mar 2013 #116

Been away all day and haven't seen em, but I can believe there might be a few Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #4

I 've done some stupid stuff that could be misinterpreted as courage cliffordu Mar 2013 #7

Rec. To some, 'real' courage is running to the internet... Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #8

And they will NEVER do anything other than 'educate' cliffordu Mar 2013 #20

Very true and well said Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #27

Yep. cliffordu Mar 2013 #112

Perfect imagery. You said it. That's how it feels. loudsue Mar 2013 #275

ms. tyler is going to be murdered? HiPointDem Mar 2013 #252

You'll no doubt find this difficult to believe, but you don't understand. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #9

I've been reading all goddamned day. cliffordu Mar 2013 #14

Horseshit. I just looked, and I still don't see any posts like you're claiming. opiate69 Mar 2013 #16

lol. Your sig says it all. cliffordu Mar 2013 #34

heh.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #38

The thread I read only got *3* posts in before someone cast aspersions on Amina. Richardo Mar 2013 #23

Can you pint to that reply please? idwiyo Mar 2013 #26

I'm not sure what thread you were reading LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #134

as opposed to the well-informed OP, who claims tunisia is a country ruled by fundamentalists HiPointDem Mar 2013 #254

There's this from Femen... Kurovski Mar 2013 #177

I completely agree. cali Mar 2013 #10

Cali, you are one of my favorite humans here. cliffordu Mar 2013 #11

oh dear. what am I doing wrong? cali Mar 2013 #18

Well....Now you're part of the clown car.... cliffordu Mar 2013 #21

Not in my book. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #65

LOL Kurovski Mar 2013 #179

Personally, I love cantankerous Cali. nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #232

Unfortunately, I think people have a tendency to view the world through the prism created hughee99 Mar 2013 #12

Hear hear UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #13

You spoke what many of us thought Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #15

Thank you for this! Common sense and a little empathy come in handy, occasionally. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #17

K&R I stayed away from "feminist" threads until today. Until I saw these hypocrites belittle and idwiyo Mar 2013 #19

Some folks are not truly interested in talking about sexism The Straight Story Mar 2013 #22

What you said. Word. cliffordu Mar 2013 #24

Some are more interested in their righteous outrage than working out our rhett o rick Mar 2013 #31

May I make a suggestion here? zeemike Mar 2013 #85

I couldn't agree more. Thanks for this. cliffordu Mar 2013 #99

I think you are right about that. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #164

You nailed it here. alp227 Mar 2013 #108

Very well said. I don't need the drama so I leave them to do their thing Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #160

I myself stay out of many of the sexism threads. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #163

What the hell happened? WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #25

GD hosts allowed a vacant 'whining about DU' meta-forum call-out to linger all day cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #29

Link? WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #37

Below idwiyo Mar 2013 #42

Thanks WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #45

Cheers! idwiyo Mar 2013 #47

I'm wrong... fadedrose Mar 2013 #257

i'll try cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #51

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #247

I have to agree with you on this one. /nt Marr Mar 2013 #28

K&R. It's just modern day puritanism LittleBlue Mar 2013 #30

I get sick of people claiming nudity cheapens your cause no matter what it is.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #32

What you said. cliffordu Mar 2013 #92

I remember a lot of shit on DU around the Iraq War Protests, about haircuts and not wearing tiedye. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #317

Then there were the "You just want to relive the 60's" crap.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #320

They have certainly shown that they've missed the point. Warpy Mar 2013 #33

Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #35

I'm not putting down the woman, putting down the reactions from people who's only reaction was bettyellen Mar 2013 #36

Links? idwiyo Mar 2013 #46

I'm sure those will be forthcoming as soon as someone actually does what she described... n/t Gore1FL Mar 2013 #147

I'll be waiting a long, long time then... Not surprised of course, because I knew thee wouldn't be idwiyo Mar 2013 #233

So what? (cont) Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #167

many guys here, who do nothing but argue with feminist all day are putting this woman on a pedestal bettyellen Mar 2013 #171

If so, at least they are carrying and praising rather than condemning Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #174

I think you missed her point, but in any case, I think the word you want is "caring", not "carrying" whathehell Mar 2013 #277

... Summer Hathaway Mar 2013 #214

Thank you. whathehell Mar 2013 #265

it's so very faux, it's hilarious bettyellen Mar 2013 #286

This was nothing to do with Amina. dawg Mar 2013 #39

For me, Amina is what it was ALL about. polly7 Mar 2013 #40

Because I believe it, that's why. dawg Mar 2013 #43

This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Mar 2013 #48

While I agree some we're upset with the language of in the title of the thread maddezmom Mar 2013 #44

And that's a valid point for discussion. dawg Mar 2013 #50

The posting of the images? That didn't happen until 190+ posts into the thread.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #53

Yes, but I think that's what put it over the top. dawg Mar 2013 #54

Not following how it shows disregard for them... opiate69 Mar 2013 #59

Because I don't think they bared their breasts for the purpose of ... dawg Mar 2013 #64

The only women here who were offended over pictures polly7 Mar 2013 #75

There is a lot of history on DU between some of the feminists and some of the men ... dawg Mar 2013 #82

I disagree. polly7 Mar 2013 #86

We all have our different takes and viewpoints on things. That's what makes life interesting. dawg Mar 2013 #90

That's the kind of society we all want. polly7 Mar 2013 #93

Yes, but can we talk about male privilege at all without being accused of demonizing men? antigone382 Mar 2013 #122

Thank you for such a well-thought out post and all of the great points. polly7 Mar 2013 #181

yes- they criticized the necessity for that tactic, not her. OP is BULLSHIT. bettyellen Mar 2013 #149

Message auto-removed MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #250

You are exactly right in one regard: cliffordu Mar 2013 #49

The young woman is very brave. But some first world feminists are just tired .. dawg Mar 2013 #52

HER struggle and statement didn't start the shitstorm cliffordu Mar 2013 #56

thanks for being honest, this OP is quite the pile of bullshit bettyellen Mar 2013 #113

Defensive, much? cliffordu Mar 2013 #125

it was men who came out 6-7 posts in with "I likee" and "Ohh, two points" making fun of her body. bettyellen Mar 2013 #148

None of the men in MY life did that. cliffordu Mar 2013 #168

Ha ha "all you can do is complain about a couple of boneheads on DU" is YOUR OP, is it not? bettyellen Mar 2013 #172

It's nice to see that someone is paying attention. redqueen Mar 2013 #299

Damn Clifford... 99Forever Mar 2013 #55

I wish it could save her. cliffordu Mar 2013 #57

I hear you there. 99Forever Mar 2013 #61

how about those who decided making Titty Jokes or talkng about how they like them JI7 Mar 2013 #60

I condemn them equally. cliffordu Mar 2013 #62

Where are these posts? Because, again, I just looked and saw nothing.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #63

In the original OP - which escapes me right now, cliffordu Mar 2013 #67

in this OP? opiate69 Mar 2013 #72

Maybe. I lost track after the third (or fourth) OP about this and the resultant cliffordu Mar 2013 #76

Ahh.. ok.. I don't remember seeing the other threads.. maybe JI7 will answer me? opiate69 Mar 2013 #78

.... JI7 Mar 2013 #111

OMG!! THE HORROR!!! opiate69 Mar 2013 #118

a woman is risking her LIFE ,i'm responding to the OP JI7 Mar 2013 #119

And then you went on to falsely claim that the original OP was rife with "titty jokes" etc. opiate69 Mar 2013 #120

no, i posted the wrong link, i had to edit to post the one with that picture JI7 Mar 2013 #124

Please... UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #128

i don't see how it is ok either way JI7 Mar 2013 #133

So you agree that you lied about his post? UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #136

i didn't lie about anything , i guess it's as the OP says about first world problems JI7 Mar 2013 #137

Just keep twisting the truth into a pretzel. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #139

your the one who said the intent is to ridicule women JI7 Mar 2013 #142

A woman is risking her life and we get: LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #152

those people roundly deserve condemnation La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #69

What's Wrong with what a Stripper Does ? maybe that's the only way she is able to make money JI7 Mar 2013 #66

Um....No. Mebbe you should search my posts for my cliffordu Mar 2013 #73

so why the outrage over the thought she might be compared to a stripper ? JI7 Mar 2013 #77

Because of ALL the things this woman did, she didn't 'strip' cliffordu Mar 2013 #84

why can't you comprehend it ? JI7 Mar 2013 #88

Hm.... cliffordu Mar 2013 #91

i said this somewhere else but her message is in keeping with her choice of messaging La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #68

Agreed. n/t tammywammy Mar 2013 #70

^^^^^^^^~THIS~^^^^^^^^^ cliffordu Mar 2013 #74

+1000 Richardo Mar 2013 #79

but teh pronification! JVS Mar 2013 #80

... Summer Hathaway Mar 2013 #215

Try telling that to seabeyond. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #297

Powerful. RevStPatrick Mar 2013 #71

Feminists have fought among themselves treestar Mar 2013 #81

What you said. cliffordu Mar 2013 #83

Liberals fight among themselves. Conservatives fight among themselves. DUers fight among themselves whathehell Mar 2013 #278

You can say that again! treestar Mar 2013 #290

Took me some time to catch up to speed since I wasn't online all day riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #87

Thanks for clarifying it. Thanks for getting it. cliffordu Mar 2013 #89

Perfect post. I agree completely. Number23 Mar 2013 #106

IT makes ME believe it might be done deliberately..... cliffordu Mar 2013 #114

It IS deliberate. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #135

I finally found what you are referencing and all I can say is Autumn Mar 2013 #94

Thank you. cliffordu Mar 2013 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Mar 2013 #98

Also Malala Yousafzai LittleBlue Mar 2013 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Mar 2013 #109

lol. tunisia has topless beaches, 50+ years of secular government, & more women in its congress HiPointDem Mar 2013 #255

Oh good grief, I just read the article and didn't look for more info Autumn Mar 2013 #280

This is now on the front page as one of the top five greatest threads. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #95

Holy shit. cliffordu Mar 2013 #97

Outstanding Yavin4 Mar 2013 #100

Thank you. cliffordu Mar 2013 #101

Many DU Posters Completely Missed The Point of Her Photo Yavin4 Mar 2013 #105

you mean the ones who posted pics of rounded mountains and other breast like formations? bettyellen Mar 2013 #115

Yes, exactly. Them, too. cliffordu Mar 2013 #117

The Knee Jerks Both Ways When It Reacts n/t Yavin4 Mar 2013 #121

As you well know, they were ridiculing HoF, UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #132

Bingo LittleBlue Mar 2013 #138

I'd say they can both be problems. antigone382 Mar 2013 #144

yep, "small-minded fucks who deserve their share of condemnation" for trivializing her actions. bettyellen Mar 2013 #146

In the same way that stage 4 brain cancer LittleBlue Mar 2013 #151

in the way 4 stage brain cancer equals annoyance at a thread? bettyellen Mar 2013 #156

In the way that death threats LittleBlue Mar 2013 #157

Message auto-removed MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #248

no, they were ridiculing all women by responding to an activist with leers bettyellen Mar 2013 #150

HoF represents all women? UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #153

posting stupid shit like leering at this activist makes DU suck for all women bettyellen Mar 2013 #155

HoF doesn't pick fights? UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #158

"she did it first!, Waaaaaah" pretending you give a shit about a protester in Tunisia bettyellen Mar 2013 #287

Not true, Betty Yellin'. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #289

ha ha. I like that. even though I never yell, and avoid yellers like the plague. bettyellen Mar 2013 #294

Well said tavalon Mar 2013 #102

Thank you, Tavalon- cliffordu Mar 2013 #103

Okay, it was at 49 recs and then I rec'd and it jumped to 89 in the 20 mins it took me to read Number23 Mar 2013 #104

Thanks. cliffordu Mar 2013 #110

Amina is a great artist whose courage is as amazing as her message is righteous. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #126

I just hope she lives. cliffordu Mar 2013 #130

The usual outrage brigade was active today? Apophis Mar 2013 #127

Over the top. Epic, really. cliffordu Mar 2013 #131

I didn't mean you. Apophis Mar 2013 #141

I got that - cliffordu Mar 2013 #192

The usual suspects - I try to keep myself under their radar NBachers Mar 2013 #140

Yep LittleBlue Mar 2013 #145

Rec. Thank you. n/t LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #129

I had to look up what you were talking about . . . MrModerate Mar 2013 #143

Wow. Well said! liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #154

Kick and Rec! n/t zappaman Mar 2013 #159

K&R: excellent post. Brave woman. caseymoz Mar 2013 #161

Me too. Her bravery leaves me cliffordu Mar 2013 #166

"none of them"---that is a roody Mar 2013 #162

In what regard?? cliffordu Mar 2013 #165

"NONE of the champions of feminism get..." roody Mar 2013 #288

Perfect! Phlem Mar 2013 #169

Thanks cliffordu Mar 2013 #170

Cliffordu is back grantcart Mar 2013 #173

K&R Kurovski Mar 2013 #175

Perfectly said, thank you! sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #178

I hope she can get out of the country to England or France. cliffordu Mar 2013 #207

You're being extremely judgemental against people you've never met. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #180

Are people actually stoned here for baring their breasts? polly7 Mar 2013 #182

None of that has anything to do with the arguements being made. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #184

Then what's the problem you have with the thread? nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #185

I stated my problems with the thread with my first reply. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #186

Bogus posits, both. cliffordu Mar 2013 #187

If I'm wrong, then explain why. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #189

Ah, well .... I guess I still don't get the problem, the OP seemed pretty accurate, imo. polly7 Mar 2013 #188

Then you don't understand the arguments being made. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #190

Yeah I just said that. But I don't care much if you don't. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #191

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood your post. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #193

She was angry at the 'pornification for the menz' in the thread about polly7 Mar 2013 #197

Actually, it has EVERYTHING to do with the arguments being made. cliffordu Mar 2013 #195

Seabeyond's OP was about posting political-based nude pics on DU. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #196

I dunno which post you are referring to. cliffordu Mar 2013 #198

I was talking about the San Francisco OP you mentioned in your OP. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #199

Ah, yes, you mean the photos and the OP cliffordu Mar 2013 #203

Except for your interpration of seabeyond's post, I agree with your post. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #303

Nope.. it was in retaliation for the failed alert on this post: opiate69 Mar 2013 #200

I did not know about the alert, but I did know her OP was based off of the nude pics posted on DU. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #201

Disagree... opiate69 Mar 2013 #204

Yep. Exactly. cliffordu Mar 2013 #206

I think you purposefully cut off the first part of that quote to make it fit your claim better. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #300

I never claimed it wasn't about DU.. the fact remains, that she tried to conflate the differing opiate69 Mar 2013 #301

If there was only one context, then I would agree with you. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #309

The original context is still what's important though.. I mean.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #310

Posting any nude pics on DU is risky as far as the jury and the tos is concerned. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #311

Those are art. political art. Kurovski Mar 2013 #213

they're not stoned in tunisia, either or any of that other crap. maybe you should read up about HiPointDem Mar 2013 #258

I'm talking about women all over NA, the ME and parts of the world who polly7 Mar 2013 #279

yeah, sure, polly HiPointDem Mar 2013 #281

As long as 'I'm' sure, that's all that matters. Now carry on with your poutrage. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #282

Did one of the fundie honchos call for her death by stoning or not? cliffordu Mar 2013 #296

Does he have any power to enforce his opinion? No more than fred phelps does. BTW, did you HiPointDem Mar 2013 #313

This message was self-deleted by its author Kurovski Mar 2013 #234

On DU, Kurovski Mar 2013 #183

No shit. Kinda epic for a post - META DU world.... cliffordu Mar 2013 #194

yup, its rather ironic that a small sub-group, one that likes to lecture other duers often, quinnox Mar 2013 #202

That's right. cliffordu Mar 2013 #205

wait, weren't you upset about criticism of the Vatican/Pope ? JI7 Mar 2013 #208

it's rather ironic that the brave fighters against patriarchy think tunisia forbids education to HiPointDem Mar 2013 #273

K&R Bobbie Jo Mar 2013 #209

Thanks. cliffordu Mar 2013 #210

When you have something to say Summer Hathaway Mar 2013 #216

Thank you, Summer. cliffordu Mar 2013 #217

Oh, the delicious irony to be savoured Summer Hathaway Mar 2013 #223

Yeppers.... cliffordu Mar 2013 #224

Sharia Law? Trascoli Mar 2013 #218

Yep. Pretty much. cliffordu Mar 2013 #219

how common a last name is 'tyler' in tunisia? and why were most of amina's naked messages HiPointDem Mar 2013 #220

tunisia doesn't have sharia law. but maybe this controversy offers red meat to those interests. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #221

Thanks for this! It clarifies some of my own cliffordu Mar 2013 #222

and again, i ask: what's the terrible danger you claim she's facing and how common a last name HiPointDem Mar 2013 #225

You could be right in your implication.... cliffordu Mar 2013 #226

you claimed religious fundamentalists "run her entire world". They clearly don't. I have friends HiPointDem Mar 2013 #227

This is fine with me. cliffordu Mar 2013 #228

i was wondering about this because i have met some women from some of these countries JI7 Mar 2013 #235

prior to the 2011 'revolution' female headcovering was officially discouraged. the government HiPointDem Mar 2013 #236

Tunisian Opposition Leader: Islamists Fail at Consensus UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #240

And all that discussion has to do with post-2011 developments. Tunisia had its 'color revolution' HiPointDem Mar 2013 #241

Be that as it may, she's not quite as safe as you were claiming. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #243

Ms. Tyler is perfectly safe. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #244

Even from your article it doesn't sound like she's "perfectly safe". UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #249

well, you let me know when the "islamic fundamentalists who rule her world" kill her. i won't hold HiPointDem Mar 2013 #251

Do you not believe that there are Islamic fundamentalists who would kill her? DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #298

There are probably christian fundies who would kill people here in the US. But they're not HiPointDem Mar 2013 #314

No, I'm not sick enough to bet on whether she lives or dies DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #315

what woman is, anywhere? n/t Whisp Mar 2013 #292

My mother here in this house, right now. She's safe. Kurovski Mar 2013 #307

Posting it here too. In reference to your new OP idwiyo Mar 2013 #259

i don't need your 'background', nor your straw men, thanks anyway. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #260

Meaning of your reply: I made a lot of wild speculations, how dare you to question me! idwiyo Mar 2013 #261

lol. i made no wild speculations whatsoever. in contrast to the OPs picture of women in tunisia HiPointDem Mar 2013 #262

You will not reply to me because you made a lot of unsupported claims. No other reason. idwiyo Mar 2013 #263

I *did* reply to you. I will not continue to engage you because your discussion style is not HiPointDem Mar 2013 #266

You made another accusation without any evidence to support it. How am I dishonest? idwiyo Mar 2013 #283

Some people wake up in the morning, and the only thing on their to-do list is "Lecture DU" Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #229

maybe people who claim tunisian women are in danger of being stoned need to be lectured, HiPointDem Mar 2013 #237

The folks threatened by the thought that someone, somewhere, might see a nekkid boob and enjoy it Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #239

yeah, i mean, of all the issues, people who are offended by public nudity is clearly one of the HiPointDem Mar 2013 #242

given by the amount of hand-wringing it gets on DU, yeah, apparently nudity is a big problem. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #267

their handwringing has its mirror in you. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #271

So? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #272

'handwringing' doesn't make something an important issue. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #274

The First Amendment has always been and will always be a front burner issue for me. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #305

Message auto-removed MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #246

You came back just to tell me that? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #268

Is your issue with the stoned part and not the threats on her life? Number23 Mar 2013 #306

Thank you. a la izquierda Mar 2013 #230

Rec. nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #231

No one is really criticizing the Tunisian woman. I'm not, anyways. Evoman Mar 2013 #238

I hope you're not including me in that blanket statement. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #245

Message auto-removed MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #253

I SAW IT! I SAW IT! NOOOOO! MY EYES! I SAW IT! Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #270

Wow, another man who is paying attention. Thank you. redqueen Apr 2013 #322

Thank you for putting into words... Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #256

I find it interesting that men who have no idea of what it is to be female in ANY world whathehell Mar 2013 #264

Well good for you. cliffordu Mar 2013 #284

Yes, and "good for you" my First World man, on being so cluelessly arrogant whathehell Apr 2013 #325

Thank you for your instructive and educational cliffordu Apr 2013 #326

Please...Had it not been for your pomposity & utter tone-deafness, I could never have done it! whathehell Apr 2013 #332

the only reson they are propping this up as a martyr is to flog others here.... bettyellen Mar 2013 #293

First World White Men tell women "Don't complain"...Yes, the arrogance is hilarious whathehell Apr 2013 #323

many, if not most of us are not lecturing, but simply stating our opinions quinnox Apr 2013 #321

Maybe, but the OP wouldn't be one of those...His post is almost comically pompous, not to mention whathehell Apr 2013 #324

I'm repulsed by the fake display of concern for this protester.... bettyellen Apr 2013 #329

Yes..It's "what happens when you marry a heap of ignorance on feminist issues with a grand whathehell Apr 2013 #330

did I bump my head? sendero Mar 2013 #269

Every so often, Turbineguy Mar 2013 #276

The reason why she did this was to generate outrage and discussion. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #285

Enthusiastic K&R Raine1967 Mar 2013 #291

Thank you, Raine. cliffordu Mar 2013 #295

The women of FEMEN are courageous! nt TheBlackAdder Mar 2013 #302

No, they are just naked. kwassa Mar 2013 #308

naked and courageous are not mutually exclusive. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #316

Here's a thread that was posted in an adult manner, without offensive titles. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #304

amen arely staircase Mar 2013 #312

I admire bravery and women who are badass enough DevonRex Apr 2013 #318

Having a bit of difficulty at what you're getting at with the last line. cliffordu Apr 2013 #319

I am agreeing with you. DevonRex Apr 2013 #327

Ah, gotcha, thanks cliffordu Apr 2013 #328

Nicely done. Puglover Apr 2013 #331