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ProgressiveProfessor

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21. While I agree with chilling a bit, I believe your analysis is flawed

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:34 PM

Mar 2013

The military provocation is mostly from the NK side. They sunk a ship and shelled an occupied island.

NK refuses talks with SK, who should be first at the table, not the US. The US is correct to reject direct talks for that reason alone.

The reality is there is a well armed state that is angry due to its own failures and whose people are starving. That is a bad thing. The new leadership is insecure and needs to make its mark. That makes it worse. Nobody is giving it much in aid these days, including its former patrons. Add it all together and its deadly situation waiting to happen.

NK will implode soon enough. The question is will they attack others in the process. For that reason I would favor giving them some ill deserved slack, but little more.

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Why must we constantly antagonize North Korea? [View all] Hugabear Mar 2013 OP

Why? DJ13 Mar 2013 #1

Whats new? it's been tit for tat for 60 years. demosincebirth Mar 2013 #2

I agree. Let's swallow our pride and negotiate with them. randome Mar 2013 #3

The best thing for us is if they stop developing things for orbit that have the potential TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #14

'cause we already have those goodies and we don't want anyone else to have them mainer Mar 2013 #24

It would be nice to sit down and have a conversation if they only would come to the table. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #57

NK doesn't want to play nice with ANYBODY. They have been kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #4

Exactly. And think about it. N. Korea has even pissed off China - THEIR ONLY ALLY! talkingmime Mar 2013 #54

it's like the captain of the high school football team datasuspect Mar 2013 #5

I think theres a lot of MIC people who just live in an alternative reality. napoleon_in_rags Mar 2013 #6

Excuse me...NK is just the innocent nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #7

nooooo. We need to send them cookies. Then they won't be so angry. alphafemale Mar 2013 #11

It's the US is at the heart of all problems in the world. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #12

Doesn't matter what you do. Some people/regimes will still want to kill you. alphafemale Mar 2013 #27

Yup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #29

Have we ever tried the cookie option? randome Mar 2013 #19

Nope. It's all been pretty much the Cuba option. mainer Mar 2013 #23

We're starving them? They seem to be able to afford lots military toys. alphafemale Mar 2013 #32

They wouldn't know what to do with a cookie. alphafemale Mar 2013 #36

What (arguably) socialist country have we *not* antagonized ever? Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #8

Do you remember how the Korean war started? pnwmom Mar 2013 #9

Kim Jong Un has only been in office a little over a year mainer Mar 2013 #10

+1 Scuba Mar 2013 #25

Idiotic. We're not going to stop our business of annual training with S Korea TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #13

WE'RE now bringing nuclear-capable B-2 bombers to their arena mainer Mar 2013 #15

I think many of our planes are nuke-capable. But then, NK is nuke-capable. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #16

Are they flying their jets off Florida? mainer Mar 2013 #22

I assume we've been flying fighters and bombers over SK since the 50's cease-fire. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #26

So it's OK to be a bully in their airspace mainer Mar 2013 #30

We're not in their airspace. Why are you getting that idea? TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #31

Have you looked at how close NK is to SK? mainer Mar 2013 #35

?? If you're saying we can't even fly our planes over SK--who allows us to, and who we are TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #38

We must withdraw all our protection from SK...obviously. alphafemale Mar 2013 #41

omg alphafemale Mar 2013 #39

I was being sarcastic about NK/SK mainer Mar 2013 #40

The whole point of flying the planes there is so NK doesn't start shit. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #43

But our flying planes there is turning into a pretext for THEIR hostility mainer Mar 2013 #44

No--they expect us to fly our planes there. Because we have troops there. And fighter jets there. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #49

We are pledged to defend SK. They want us there. Vapor trailing all over their airspace. alphafemale Mar 2013 #45

We will defend SK. But why do we have to rattle NK's cage mainer Mar 2013 #48

If responding to NK's threats against us and SK is "rattling their cage" (by conducting our TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #51

Who exactly threatened to nuke who? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #18

We did. treestar Mar 2013 #47

Thank you. Nucking futz is right. nt babylonsister Mar 2013 #33

Because that is what imperial bullies do malaise Mar 2013 #17

In this case the US and SK have had plenty of opportunities to resume nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #20

I didn't suggest that the US is heading for war malaise Mar 2013 #56

The problem is blaming the US and imperialism nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #60

While I agree with chilling a bit, I believe your analysis is flawed ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #21

The leader of North Korea is not the victim here Marrah_G Mar 2013 #28

For the same reason we antagonize Cuba, Venezuela and Iran tech3149 Mar 2013 #34

I don't know. I was in shock when Shrubby provoked them, especially after the Clinton Cleita Mar 2013 #37

They want a peace treaty? treestar Mar 2013 #42

Of course we will defend SK. But we have to chill things down mainer Mar 2013 #46

They will feel threatened regardless of what we do Generic Brad Mar 2013 #64

Respectfully, you clearly do not understand the situation n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #50

Exactly , the war never ended its been a ceasefire....... Historic NY Mar 2013 #52

That, and you really have to understand how the people live and what they believe n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #58

NK seems to be the one doing the saber rattling lately rightsideout Mar 2013 #53

"We're" not antagonizing anybody cbrer Mar 2013 #55

Gotsta feed them Warpigs. 99Forever Mar 2013 #59

The US is planning to be the last man standing. PDJane Mar 2013 #61

Are you speaking of Dennis Rodman? ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #62

President Obama knows what he's doing. Zax2me Mar 2013 #63

If you think we're the ones doing the antagonizing, TimberValley Mar 2013 #65