Why are tits so fetishized?

[caseymoz]

88. There's nowhere to go in this conversation, then.

We utterly and completely disagree on basic facts. But I'm prepared to try anyway.

You never answered my assertion about homosexuality. If it's fluid, why would anyone become homosexual in this culture? The social push seems to be in the other direction. The rewards for homosexuality, other than having better sex and loving somebody who matters to you, are nonexistent.

The social constructs of sexual identity did not just come into being in the last 300 years. If you believe that, you haven't looked very close. I know it's fashionable in pop science and progressive politics to deny the obvious about this. There's a certain illusion that we were once free and then messed it up in the modern world. Fact is, the constructs existed; what didn't exist was the terminology, because social science hadn't started to examine them yet.

On your point about sexual identity changing, that's an incomplete description. To be perfectly accurate, it changes for some people, not others. And that will be true no matter what. Because flexibility to social influence varies from person to person, and trait to trait within a person.

Even though some people can and do change their sexual identity in their lifetimes, have you asked whether that was either a flexibility they always had, or if-- more likely-- their brains changed organically? Either the balance of their brain chemistry changed-- shutting off one set of brain tissue and activating another-- or they have a brain tumor, or had a stroke, which have the same effect. That doesn't imply they were always open to social influence about it.

Really, exclaiming that people are the totally influenced by their culture is as much as an attack on freedom as saying they are set with every trait from birth and can never change them. Arguable, it's more of one. Because then you have to ask why the politically powerful group shouldn't "cure" homosexuals, since society created them to begin with. And if society is actually making the decision, while nothing comes from the individual, doesn't society then have a right, or perhaps even a duty to intrude on our psychology? The ability to mold and make decisions implies a superiority or even a supremacy over the individual.

But, thankfully, this isn't exactly the way it is. Everything, every trait every more in society also comes from its individuals.