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idwiyo

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32. Theo Van Gogh was murdered in Amsterdam. Looks like there is no such thing as "too far"...

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:58 AM

Mar 2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director)

Mohammed Bouyeri murdered Van Gogh as he was cycling to work in the early morning of 2 November 2004, in front of the Amsterdam East borough office (stadsdeelkantoor), on the corner of the Linnaeusstraat and Tweede Oosterparkstraat (52°21′32.22″N 4°55′34.74″E).[3] The killer shot van Gogh eight times with an HS 2000 handgun, and Van Gogh died on the spot. The killer also tried to decapitate van Gogh with a knife,[4] and stabbed him in the chest with another. The two knives were left implanted; one attached a five-page note to his body. The note (Text) threatened Western countries, Jews and Ayaan Hirsi Ali (who went into hiding).[5][6] The note also referred to the ideologies of the Egyptian organization Takfir wal-Hijra.

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Well, one thing's for sure: women who die for a cause or as heroes sure don't get as much attention [View all] BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 OP

I am sure you are very proud of this post and your insinuations about Amina. idwiyo Mar 2013 #1

bullshit. I'm not casting aspersions oj Amina. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #5

Did I misread your post? idwiyo Mar 2013 #7

Have you forgotten about the men supporting UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #33

Just what I was thinking of. randome Mar 2013 #39

I already said this, post 9: BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #59

I'm not sure what well-known feminist you think is getting a raw deal here. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #2

please can the phony bewilderment. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #8

Please can the unwarranted insults. polly7 Mar 2013 #10

lol Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #11

Wow. You two must have some sort of secret code or something. polly7 Mar 2013 #14

Malala Yousafzai is still alive LittleBlue Mar 2013 #3

thank you! This is what I'm talking about. Amina's act is absolutely courageous. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #9

I thought you said there were no Muslim women UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #37

no. I said, WOMEN (not MUSLIM women) who risk their lives or die for a cause get attention--but BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #58

Malala's case did not receive as much attention or support from men? Are you serious? idwiyo Mar 2013 #66

no, I did not say that she did not receive attention. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #74

The comments I saw in Amina's threads (including those from men) were focusing on her bravery, idwiyo Mar 2013 #81

Tunisia is 98% Muslim quinnox Mar 2013 #4

I'm referring to several posts that have pointed to the fact that Tunisia is quite Westernized. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #17

So ONLY if her life is threatened is when nudity is 'acceptable' to you? randome Mar 2013 #40

Again, I am not talking about the same thing you're talking about. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #64

the elephant in the room "the tendency for people to give women more attention when they sexualize." bettyellen Mar 2013 #77

yeah Islamic fundamentalists have never bombed things in western countries dsc Mar 2013 #43

The use of language by third parties is my argument lunatica Mar 2013 #6

While the word "vagina" is used for its shock value all over the popular media. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #29

No, the question is why a white woman feels it's perfectly UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #41

I know! I objected to a filthy, vile word introduced and STILL defended by some, polly7 Mar 2013 #52

Yep, they can be insensitive and vile whenever they want. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #65

Yup.. and don't you dare call them on it, lest you be dismissed with the "tone argument" canard. opiate69 Mar 2013 #68

+1 LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #35

Right on, Blanche! Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #12

thank you, Sheldon. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #31

"is Amina really risking her life in Tunisia" lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #13

HiPointDem provided different information, with links. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #18

As did cali. polly7 Mar 2013 #22

ah. Thank you. That's more educational. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #79

You're quite welcome. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #80

Theo Van Gogh was murdered in Amsterdam. Looks like there is no such thing as "too far"... idwiyo Mar 2013 #32

last I read she was safe - safer than most women in lots of neighboring countries. bettyellen Mar 2013 #38

Pretending that Tunisia is safe will not change the situation on the ground. idwiyo Mar 2013 #53

Tunisia was safe for women as Iraq once was, before the sectarian polly7 Mar 2013 #61

No disagreement from me. I just don't get it that some of the people here keep insisting its idwiyo Mar 2013 #62

I don't understand it either. I also don't understand how rights we polly7 Mar 2013 #63

I personally will never forget how Rosa Parks posed nude... Bonobo Mar 2013 #15

thank you! This is what I'm talking about. Amina's act is absolutely courageous. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #19

Umm, you missed the point. Bonobo Mar 2013 #20

no thanks given. Rosa Parks was actually risking her life by refusing to give up her seat. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #49

So.. which is it then?? opiate69 Mar 2013 #60

Is your problem with sexism or with the attention that black people receive? Number23 Mar 2013 #115

Rosa was, however, hfojvt Mar 2013 #54

So, every fifty years you find an exception. that's a big stretch Bo. bettyellen Mar 2013 #21

Okay how about Cindy Sheehan? nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #23

Or Elizabeth Warren? 99Forever Mar 2013 #24

She rose to fame as a protester? bettyellen Mar 2013 #27

She rose to fame by standing up for all of us. 99Forever Mar 2013 #44

no, but I thought the topic was about protesters trying to get media attention bettyellen Mar 2013 #48

While we love her at DU, most people have no idea who she is. bettyellen Mar 2013 #30

You need to reflect why you have such a problem with nudity. :) idwiyo Mar 2013 #55

you need to stop making assumptions instead of reading for comprehension bettyellen Mar 2013 #73

It's about nudity. Protest or no protest. That's obvious. You do know that nudity is perfectly idwiyo Mar 2013 #75

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #83

Public or not its still nudity. What's makes public nudity different? Why is it important to control idwiyo Mar 2013 #85

What is SJW? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #76

"Social Justice Warrior" is the new RW/ MRA pejorative used to accuse internet posters bettyellen Mar 2013 #82

Thank you. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #104

.... opiate69 Mar 2013 #106

Salman Rushdie is still alive after all these years so treestar Mar 2013 #16

Theo Van Gogh is dead. Is that good enough? idwiyo Mar 2013 #67

I don't get it treestar Mar 2013 #78

You said that Salmon Rushdie is still alive and was wondering if the threats are real. idwiyo Mar 2013 #84

OK but not entirely the same treestar Mar 2013 #86

In Amina's case there is also a cleric who already called for her death. Not a government issued idwiyo Mar 2013 #94

The death threats were quite serous. Salman Rushdie was in hiding for many years. RC Mar 2013 #114

Yeah, it's got to be extremely stressful treestar Mar 2013 #118

Rachel Corrie The Straight Story Mar 2013 #25

I was just thinking of her. :( nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #28

Boom. Inkfreak Mar 2013 #36

Wasn't Rachel Corrie killed in the context of the Israel/Palestinian conflict? Squinch Mar 2013 #105

You don't think women are affected by the I/P conflict? The Straight Story Mar 2013 #110

No need for snark, I was trying to understand your reference. Squinch Mar 2013 #112

Blanche, I think you nailed it regarding the false sanctimony we are seeing here bettyellen Mar 2013 #26

if rachel corey had waved her boobs elehhhhna Mar 2013 #34

Am trying to understand what you are trying to say... idwiyo Mar 2013 #69

pure sarcasm -- elehhhhna Mar 2013 #97

OK, thank you for clarification. idwiyo Mar 2013 #100

I think this applies more when feminism is the cause they're fighting for. redqueen Mar 2013 #42

I will cut to the chase nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #45

If that was the reason where's the piling on for this one? redqueen Mar 2013 #47

No my dear, wrong geographically nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #50

Read more carefully. You are obviously talking about sea's thread. redqueen Mar 2013 #56

Whatever dear nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #57

I saw objections to the NSFW aspect... BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #70

And I saw the please have a warning NSFW label nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #72

How many men talked about Rosa Parks? Apophis Mar 2013 #46

This whole discussion is worthless (to men) without pictures. undeterred Mar 2013 #51

The only thing that got this talked about on DU was 'tits' in a thread title muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #71

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #87

Wow, the misogyny in this forum is vicious and personal. undeterred Mar 2013 #88

Oops, forgot disagreeing with somebody is considered misogyny now. name not needed Mar 2013 #89

How is calling someone a "cancer" disagreeing with them? undeterred Mar 2013 #90

She's attacking women who are standing up for their own rights, remember muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #92

Probably the same way she goes around calling progressive women polly7 Mar 2013 #98

Wow.. I don't know that I've ever seen an "alert result" post get juried and hidden... weird stuff.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #101

That is very strange. polly7 Mar 2013 #102

I have to guess somebody figured it was further victimizing SB by posting what that juror said.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #107

One of the results badmouthed the poster. That's probably why it was hidden. randome Mar 2013 #108

+1 idwiyo Mar 2013 #95

Indira Gandhi? LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #91

as per usual, spot fucking on... opiate69 Mar 2013 #93

+1000. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #99

Benazir Bhutto idwiyo Mar 2013 #96

I think that quite a few women who died for causes MineralMan Mar 2013 #103

Jury results warrprayer Mar 2013 #109

Amina's actions are about Muslim men controlling a woman's clothes, body riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #111

are you kidding me? liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #113

"There are a lot of threads today ... Summer Hathaway Mar 2013 #116

Yeah ... good luck with that, don't hold your breath. In the meantime, here's a pig polly7 Mar 2013 #117

Nice pig! No pearls though? opiate69 Mar 2013 #119

LOL. Trampling them as we speak! nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #120

I don't know why you tried Blanche UtahLib Mar 2013 #121