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23. Did I say that?

I could not smack her, she's not my kid. I am too modern to spank a kid on the butt (that does not seem excessive). That's why I was asking, what do you do?

Everyone says they cannot be spanked now, but I now have experience with a four year old getting her way by use of will. I was stuck there for an hour asking her to come and the only alternative was to let her stay there and play? Should she then be allowed to stay as long as she wants? As long as she is willing to ignore me. I did not yell either, as I didn't feel authorized to do that too.

I have dealt with kids before and never had one be so strong willed, but she was going to stay there no matter what I said. I had to employ pretending I was going to leave. Then she started up another test of wills over getting into the car (parking lot was empty) and then getting herself belted in - I finally just had to belt her in myself, fortunately she was near the seat and I was able to just put her in it and belt her in).