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riderinthestorm

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111. Amina's actions are about Muslim men controlling a woman's clothes, body

Reply to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 03:52 PM

Mar 2013

and independence.

Frequently shrouded, silenced, disappeared. And if they don't comply they are killed as "slutty" for even non-crimes like talking to a strange man.

Her protest is genius in that she takes aim at EVERYTHING women are constrained by in their cultures.

Clothing? Check - she takes it ALL off.

Exposing of the dread, lust inducing breasts instead of being shrouded by a tent? Plus the double bonus of her face and hair. Check! Exposed.

"Speaking out" instead of remaining silent? Ooooh boy, yes.

"Speaking out" about honor killings? Double yes.

This isn't about political gains like the right to vote, or drive, or be the Prime Minister, or go to school....

Amina's action is targeted at the fundamental flaw in how Islamic societies treat women. Its beyond what rights women should or should not have and goes to the core of how that culture denigrates women (which leads to the loss of all the other rights).

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Well, one thing's for sure: women who die for a cause or as heroes sure don't get as much attention [View all] BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 OP

I am sure you are very proud of this post and your insinuations about Amina. idwiyo Mar 2013 #1

bullshit. I'm not casting aspersions oj Amina. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #5

Did I misread your post? idwiyo Mar 2013 #7

Have you forgotten about the men supporting UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #33

Just what I was thinking of. randome Mar 2013 #39

I already said this, post 9: BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #59

I'm not sure what well-known feminist you think is getting a raw deal here. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #2

please can the phony bewilderment. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #8

Please can the unwarranted insults. polly7 Mar 2013 #10

lol Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #11

Wow. You two must have some sort of secret code or something. polly7 Mar 2013 #14

Malala Yousafzai is still alive LittleBlue Mar 2013 #3

thank you! This is what I'm talking about. Amina's act is absolutely courageous. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #9

I thought you said there were no Muslim women UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #37

no. I said, WOMEN (not MUSLIM women) who risk their lives or die for a cause get attention--but BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #58

Malala's case did not receive as much attention or support from men? Are you serious? idwiyo Mar 2013 #66

no, I did not say that she did not receive attention. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #74

The comments I saw in Amina's threads (including those from men) were focusing on her bravery, idwiyo Mar 2013 #81

Tunisia is 98% Muslim quinnox Mar 2013 #4

I'm referring to several posts that have pointed to the fact that Tunisia is quite Westernized. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #17

So ONLY if her life is threatened is when nudity is 'acceptable' to you? randome Mar 2013 #40

Again, I am not talking about the same thing you're talking about. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #64

the elephant in the room "the tendency for people to give women more attention when they sexualize." bettyellen Mar 2013 #77

yeah Islamic fundamentalists have never bombed things in western countries dsc Mar 2013 #43

The use of language by third parties is my argument lunatica Mar 2013 #6

While the word "vagina" is used for its shock value all over the popular media. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #29

No, the question is why a white woman feels it's perfectly UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #41

I know! I objected to a filthy, vile word introduced and STILL defended by some, polly7 Mar 2013 #52

Yep, they can be insensitive and vile whenever they want. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #65

Yup.. and don't you dare call them on it, lest you be dismissed with the "tone argument" canard. opiate69 Mar 2013 #68

+1 LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #35

Right on, Blanche! Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #12

thank you, Sheldon. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #31

"is Amina really risking her life in Tunisia" lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #13

HiPointDem provided different information, with links. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #18

As did cali. polly7 Mar 2013 #22

ah. Thank you. That's more educational. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #79

You're quite welcome. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #80

Theo Van Gogh was murdered in Amsterdam. Looks like there is no such thing as "too far"... idwiyo Mar 2013 #32

last I read she was safe - safer than most women in lots of neighboring countries. bettyellen Mar 2013 #38

Pretending that Tunisia is safe will not change the situation on the ground. idwiyo Mar 2013 #53

Tunisia was safe for women as Iraq once was, before the sectarian polly7 Mar 2013 #61

No disagreement from me. I just don't get it that some of the people here keep insisting its idwiyo Mar 2013 #62

I don't understand it either. I also don't understand how rights we polly7 Mar 2013 #63

I personally will never forget how Rosa Parks posed nude... Bonobo Mar 2013 #15

thank you! This is what I'm talking about. Amina's act is absolutely courageous. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #19

Umm, you missed the point. Bonobo Mar 2013 #20

no thanks given. Rosa Parks was actually risking her life by refusing to give up her seat. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #49

So.. which is it then?? opiate69 Mar 2013 #60

Is your problem with sexism or with the attention that black people receive? Number23 Mar 2013 #115

Rosa was, however, hfojvt Mar 2013 #54

So, every fifty years you find an exception. that's a big stretch Bo. bettyellen Mar 2013 #21

Okay how about Cindy Sheehan? nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #23

Or Elizabeth Warren? 99Forever Mar 2013 #24

She rose to fame as a protester? bettyellen Mar 2013 #27

She rose to fame by standing up for all of us. 99Forever Mar 2013 #44

no, but I thought the topic was about protesters trying to get media attention bettyellen Mar 2013 #48

While we love her at DU, most people have no idea who she is. bettyellen Mar 2013 #30

You need to reflect why you have such a problem with nudity. :) idwiyo Mar 2013 #55

you need to stop making assumptions instead of reading for comprehension bettyellen Mar 2013 #73

It's about nudity. Protest or no protest. That's obvious. You do know that nudity is perfectly idwiyo Mar 2013 #75

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #83

Public or not its still nudity. What's makes public nudity different? Why is it important to control idwiyo Mar 2013 #85

What is SJW? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #76

"Social Justice Warrior" is the new RW/ MRA pejorative used to accuse internet posters bettyellen Mar 2013 #82

Thank you. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #104

.... opiate69 Mar 2013 #106

Salman Rushdie is still alive after all these years so treestar Mar 2013 #16

Theo Van Gogh is dead. Is that good enough? idwiyo Mar 2013 #67

I don't get it treestar Mar 2013 #78

You said that Salmon Rushdie is still alive and was wondering if the threats are real. idwiyo Mar 2013 #84

OK but not entirely the same treestar Mar 2013 #86

In Amina's case there is also a cleric who already called for her death. Not a government issued idwiyo Mar 2013 #94

The death threats were quite serous. Salman Rushdie was in hiding for many years. RC Mar 2013 #114

Yeah, it's got to be extremely stressful treestar Mar 2013 #118

Rachel Corrie The Straight Story Mar 2013 #25

I was just thinking of her. :( nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #28

Boom. Inkfreak Mar 2013 #36

Wasn't Rachel Corrie killed in the context of the Israel/Palestinian conflict? Squinch Mar 2013 #105

You don't think women are affected by the I/P conflict? The Straight Story Mar 2013 #110

No need for snark, I was trying to understand your reference. Squinch Mar 2013 #112

Blanche, I think you nailed it regarding the false sanctimony we are seeing here bettyellen Mar 2013 #26

if rachel corey had waved her boobs elehhhhna Mar 2013 #34

Am trying to understand what you are trying to say... idwiyo Mar 2013 #69

pure sarcasm -- elehhhhna Mar 2013 #97

OK, thank you for clarification. idwiyo Mar 2013 #100

I think this applies more when feminism is the cause they're fighting for. redqueen Mar 2013 #42

I will cut to the chase nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #45

If that was the reason where's the piling on for this one? redqueen Mar 2013 #47

No my dear, wrong geographically nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #50

Read more carefully. You are obviously talking about sea's thread. redqueen Mar 2013 #56

Whatever dear nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #57

I saw objections to the NSFW aspect... BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #70

And I saw the please have a warning NSFW label nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #72

How many men talked about Rosa Parks? Apophis Mar 2013 #46

This whole discussion is worthless (to men) without pictures. undeterred Mar 2013 #51

The only thing that got this talked about on DU was 'tits' in a thread title muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #71

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #87

Wow, the misogyny in this forum is vicious and personal. undeterred Mar 2013 #88

Oops, forgot disagreeing with somebody is considered misogyny now. name not needed Mar 2013 #89

How is calling someone a "cancer" disagreeing with them? undeterred Mar 2013 #90

She's attacking women who are standing up for their own rights, remember muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #92

Probably the same way she goes around calling progressive women polly7 Mar 2013 #98

Wow.. I don't know that I've ever seen an "alert result" post get juried and hidden... weird stuff.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #101

That is very strange. polly7 Mar 2013 #102

I have to guess somebody figured it was further victimizing SB by posting what that juror said.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #107

One of the results badmouthed the poster. That's probably why it was hidden. randome Mar 2013 #108

+1 idwiyo Mar 2013 #95

Indira Gandhi? LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #91

as per usual, spot fucking on... opiate69 Mar 2013 #93

+1000. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #99

Benazir Bhutto idwiyo Mar 2013 #96

I think that quite a few women who died for causes MineralMan Mar 2013 #103

Jury results warrprayer Mar 2013 #109

Amina's actions are about Muslim men controlling a woman's clothes, body riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #111

are you kidding me? liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #113

"There are a lot of threads today ... Summer Hathaway Mar 2013 #116

Yeah ... good luck with that, don't hold your breath. In the meantime, here's a pig polly7 Mar 2013 #117

Nice pig! No pearls though? opiate69 Mar 2013 #119

LOL. Trampling them as we speak! nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #120

I don't know why you tried Blanche UtahLib Mar 2013 #121