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AnotherMcIntosh

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34. Strawman: "They’d even have you believe that the President slipped section 735 in there himself."

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 07:33 PM

Mar 2013

Really?

Could it be that "entities like A.L.E.C., the Heritage Foundation and shadow groups funded by the Koch brothers" would have you believe that? Have they made an effort to do so?

Actually, the way that this got into the Bill has repeatedly explained on various web sites, including DU:

"Section 735 "Monsanto Rider" is reported by NY Daily News to have been written in concert with Mosanto by Sen. Roy Blount (R-MO), perhaps Monsanto’s biggest Senate contribution beneficiary. Senate Appropriations Committee Chairwoman Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) allowed the language to stand without consultation with the Agriculture Subcommittee, or any others, for that matter."

http://election.democraticunderground.com/11593033

If there has been any effort by anyone re: "They’d even have you believe that the President slipped section 735 in there himself," where is it?

Why isn't the truth good enough? Why is it necessary to build strawmen to denigrate legitimate criticism? Is Obama above legitimate criticism?

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The “Monsanto Protection Act”, and why you were duped [View all] babylonsister Mar 2013 OP

And yet nothing here dispels the specifics about how Monsanto is indemnified against the havoc villager Mar 2013 #1

'If this had been a permanent grant of immunity elleng Mar 2013 #2

Sort of like the "temporary" Patriot Act, Guantanamo Bay detentions, tax cuts for the rich, etc.? villager Mar 2013 #10

He says it is attached to a bill which extends the budget by six months. DLnyc Mar 2013 #41

Yes, I think it does expire. elleng Mar 2013 #59

Oh, the message here is that we librul Obama-haters better vote for anything with djean111 Mar 2013 #3

That's the message you Cha Mar 2013 #5

Thanks Cha. elleng Mar 2013 #11

Unreal.. Cha Mar 2013 #14

We know it's BAD. We're informed. The fact is it was a temporary bill to keep the Cha Mar 2013 #6

That's it? He's helpless because he "doesn't have one item Veto Powers"? AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #52

+ 1 - this occult Act sucks for Americans, no matter what you call it Berlum Mar 2013 #42

At this point, Obama gets NO benefit of the doubt from me. MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #4

... SidDithers Mar 2013 #8

Keep laughing. The joke's on you. MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #71

I think Sid knows exactly who the joke is on and it isn't him. DevonRex Mar 2013 #90

What does that mean? MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #92

You must be a big fan of the History channel. jazzimov Mar 2013 #22

Take your pick MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #70

Kick and fucking Rec... SidDithers Mar 2013 #7

I got an email from Food Democracy Now Cha Mar 2013 #18

And some here wanted him to veto the entire bill to keep governent going past the 27th. freshwest Mar 2013 #25

Of course they did. Cha Mar 2013 #30

Gotta think two steps ahead. Panic eliminates reflection, turns it into reaction without reason. freshwest Mar 2013 #43

'Effort to dumb down, divide and destroy the progressive movement' Newsjock Mar 2013 #9

Thanks, jock. elleng Mar 2013 #12

The way you've done that twice on this thread (and more elsewhere that I can recall) Occulus Mar 2013 #13

My 'coworkers' have all retired, elleng Mar 2013 #19

I'm also part of the same conspiracy of retired anonymous posters who appreciate good posts. freshwest Mar 2013 #24

lol Cha Mar 2013 #32

Good to know, freshwest! sheshe2 Mar 2013 #44

'Thanks,' fresh! elleng Mar 2013 #68

Me too, elleng. I've Retired and my Cha Mar 2013 #31

I wish I could REC your post. jazzimov Mar 2013 #23

+1. I'll rec yours to send the word upthread. ^^^ freshwest Mar 2013 #26

It worked in 2010 and will work in 2014. The proof is in our faces. freshwest Mar 2013 #58

THIS. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #15

It was the usual hyper-stupidity from the usual hyper-stupids alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #16

Blunt talk, but I try to not use it. Thanks. freshwest Mar 2013 #21

Nailed it... SidDithers Mar 2013 #27

yeah, reading over 300 pages on this issue means nothing Skittles Mar 2013 #66

Koch money used to erode the base and it works. 2010 = 2014. freshwest Mar 2013 #17

Strawman: "Defeatists say those who don't sneer at Obama are fools". Why isn't the truth good enough AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #54

So true! We have seen it right here many times. K&R jazzimov Mar 2013 #20

If the Obama Administration was not saturated with... bvar22 Mar 2013 #28

So Bernie Sanders is a right-wing shill? jeff47 Mar 2013 #38

Yeah, uh huh. a2liberal Mar 2013 #29

Well said. Thanks for saying it so clearly and forcefully. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #35

Let's completely ignore the fact... cheapdate Mar 2013 #36

"The battle over GMO is finished"? Really? Cha Mar 2013 #46

No. The battle over GMOs is not finished. cheapdate Mar 2013 #60

I was hoping you meant it that way, cheapdate. But, Cha Mar 2013 #63

+1 limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #37

So why'd Sanders vote for it? jeff47 Mar 2013 #39

The section in question prohibits Monsanto suing farmers from selling cross pollinated crops. freshwest Mar 2013 #48

To be fair, you didn't include a quote either. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #49

I googled the hell out of this yesterday and there are numerous threads. Sorry. freshwest Mar 2013 #55

I know - but if I'm gonna complain about them not doing it, I'm gonna have to point that out. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #85

This is important, if true. Do you have a link to that? A link to the actual language in the Act AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #53

I actually read the section a2liberal Mar 2013 #94

maybe they should ALL apologize Skittles Mar 2013 #69

If so, they should do so without Mikulski-type qualifications: AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #72

The OP is posting FACTS whether you can deal with them or not. n/t Cha Mar 2013 #47

Right a2liberal Mar 2013 #95

it is downright embarrassing Skittles Mar 2013 #61

I do support avoiding a government shutdown Mz Pip Mar 2013 #84

I like this guy. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #33

Strawman: "They’d even have you believe that the President slipped section 735 in there himself." AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #34

Well, read this thread. jeff47 Mar 2013 #40

No, it's "Potato, because a vest has no sleeves." WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #50

Why don't you take your own advice and read the thread plus related information? AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #51

Reading comprehension fail. jeff47 Mar 2013 #86

STRAWMAN: Until someone other than you claims that Tayor and Vilsack wrote the bill, you are just AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #88

like arguing with table legs, AM Skittles Mar 2013 #67

Kick and Rec! sheshe2 Mar 2013 #45

K&R Whisp Mar 2013 #56

Leftist reactionaries are not friends to the Democratic party... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #57

LOL Skittles Mar 2013 #62

Who calls liberals leftists, "comrade"? whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #78

YUp... SidDithers Mar 2013 #79

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #80

I wasn't fooled! I immediately noticed it was just an appropriations bill. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #64

appropriations, right Skittles Mar 2013 #65

Please say this isn't so: AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #73

Have you reviewed HR 933? You need to do that, instead of Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #74

Oh,the irony Doctor_J Mar 2013 #76

These crap articles by stupid bloggers Rex Apr 2013 #98

You're right, I always loved Monsanto until just recently whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #75

Sounds like the author is pre-blaming "the left" for another disaster Doctor_J Mar 2013 #77

They play the same game as the Republicans Mnpaul Mar 2013 #82

Damn that reality and it's right-wing bias! jeff47 Mar 2013 #87

As usual Mnpaul Mar 2013 #91

And that strategy has been at work since the day Obama took office. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #81

K&R Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #83

You nailed it, nicely. babylonsister Mar 2013 #96

k&r... spanone Mar 2013 #89

Kick jazzimov Mar 2013 #93

So this uninformed blogger give no facts to back up his claims Rex Apr 2013 #97