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mwooldri

(10,820 posts)
43. It can be afforded. Right now.
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 01:14 PM
Mar 2013

I would also bet that it would bring down the deficit too but it wouldn't be very popular going through the process.

The UK covers its population with universal healthcare with about the same amount of money that is spent on US medicare each year. multiply the medicare budget by 5, and there's your budget. Increase the medicare tax, everyone in the USA has medical coverage. Doctors would be independent contractors. Office staff would deal with only one insurance company. Yes there will be waiting lists for non urgent care. Existing hospitals would run as non profits only, and would have to take the standard reimbursement rate. Costs can be cut further if a lot of these hospitals were nationalized. The UK's NHS is one of the largest employers in the world. Multiply that by five. It would be nice to tell the world that Medicare USA is the worlds largest employer.

Why won't it work here? Big Insurance and Big Pharma. Their businesses would disappear. Big pharma won't be able to rip off the public in the way they do now. For profit hospitals would have a much smaller customer base. There will be no need for adverts for medicines on TV or in print as doctors will have no choice but to prescribe the best drug for the patient rather than be swayed by what a pharma sales rep in a sales push. And there is a significant minority who thinks government healthcare is the root of all evil, despite many of them being on medicare...

So until commonsense prevails or we get people in Congress who are bold enough to go thus way we will be stick with what we have.

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That is truly the difference. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #1
Very true etherealtruth Mar 2013 #2
Yup. Canuckistanian Mar 2013 #3
According to my douchebag Republican brother-in-law, Chakab Mar 2013 #4
I've heard a bunch of right-wingers say that, but none of them know any Canadians octothorpe Mar 2013 #6
There used to be a Canadian woman, whose name escapes me now, Chakab Mar 2013 #15
We're not 'rushing in...' CanSocDem Mar 2013 #8
LOL! RC Mar 2013 #45
I love getting lectures about Canadian health care from people like that Posteritatis Mar 2013 #11
My BIL doesn't even know anybody from Canada. Chakab Mar 2013 #14
I totally know what you mean laundry_queen Mar 2013 #30
I've never known ANYONE who crossed the border for health care Canuckistanian Mar 2013 #16
We have to schedule check-ups in advance too gollygee Mar 2013 #22
My husband needed to see a neurologist a few years ago Mariana Mar 2013 #36
Brother inlaws earthbone Mar 2013 #24
Yeah, people *WANT* to pay incredible sums of money for mediocre health care. Right. Initech Mar 2013 #42
funny how all the right wing arguments boil down the same booley Mar 2013 #46
You can do that in the US too, buuuut octothorpe Mar 2013 #5
But the US can not afford to provide universal heath as most industrialized nations of the world do indepat Mar 2013 #7
I know of one Canadian that prefers the US model, he promoted the uniquely American Dragonfli Mar 2013 #12
Oh *snap*. 99Forever Mar 2013 #13
It can be afforded. Right now. mwooldri Mar 2013 #43
I have a canadian friend. airplaneman Mar 2013 #25
I can testify to the correctness of your post. RC Mar 2013 #48
I remember being struck by something similar. Ron Obvious Mar 2013 #9
Raising Hope: Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #10
Nailed It. bvar22 Mar 2013 #17
But hey, it was the best we could do/hope to get, ya know? SammyWinstonJack Mar 2013 #19
Perfect! nt BrotherIvan Mar 2013 #40
One of the funniest shows I ever saw! Loved it. Especially Bubbles. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #18
yep marions ghost Mar 2013 #20
I agree, my Canada coworkers mock us. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #31
I have Australian relatives marions ghost Mar 2013 #38
bubbles is my favorite fizzgig Mar 2013 #28
Norway scored very low on early detection and treatment War Horse Mar 2013 #21
...and p. s. Trailer Park Boys is amazing TV and Canadian.. Tikki Mar 2013 #23
my nj bubba brother does not want obama care riverbendviewgal Mar 2013 #26
we watched that episode yesterday fizzgig Mar 2013 #27
The other morning I had an incident Tab Mar 2013 #29
$600 without insurance for a 1.5 mile ambulance trip, to be exact. JimDandy Mar 2013 #33
Yeah, and we shouldn't be declining ambulance rides purely for financial purposes. Tab Mar 2013 #35
up here health care is regarded as a human right and joelz Mar 2013 #32
We can't have decent health care marions ghost Mar 2013 #39
I cut the bloody hell out of my finger ten days ago, so bad I thought I might need stitches..... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2013 #34
Yep - in the US, having insurance doesn't mean rurallib Mar 2013 #41
Here are some facts based on reality hopeisaplace Mar 2013 #37
That is very accurate. nt Joey Liberal Mar 2013 #44
If it is so unbearable... LiberalLovinLug Mar 2013 #47
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