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25. No, you didn't state that but it is a common talking point for many gun control advocates. ...
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 08:00 PM
Mar 2013

It is true that AR-15 style rifles have been used in recent massacres but the reality is that so have shotguns and pistols.

Seung-Hui Cho used two pistols to kill 32 people and wound 17 others in the Virginia Tech massacre. One was a 9mm Glock 19 with a 15 round magazine. the other a .22 LR Walther P22 with a 10 round magazine.
Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho

In the Colorado shooting Holmes started with a 12 gauge Remington 870 shotgun, then used a Smith & Wesson M&P15 AR-1 style rifle until it jammed and finished with a Glock .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/24/us/aurora-gunmans-lethal-arsenal.html

If you wish to stop all massacres by banning guns you would, at the minimum, have to ban and confiscate all semi-auto rifles, pump and semi-auto shotguns and all semi-auto pistols. But then the shooter would just carry several revolvers so you would have to ban and confiscate them too. Of course then the killer would just use gasoline or explosives. A gallon of gasoline can kill a lot of people as can explosives.

Thanks for the link.

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Absolutely no surprise there. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #1
Paranoia...... will destroy ya! nt rdharma Mar 2013 #2
"new" study from a year ago? Using video games? X_Digger Mar 2013 #3
I think it is second nature to those who have spent many hours training to shoot people. Hoyt Mar 2013 #31
Don't forget the wish-fulfillment angle. Aristus Mar 2013 #4
I would never pull my legally concealed handgun unless I was under attack from an individual ... spin Mar 2013 #5
And I'm sure you can vouch for every other gun owner in America, too. baldguy Mar 2013 #6
His mother was the gun owner... spin Mar 2013 #7
Bingo. So spare us the tales of how you're the exceptional "good" gun owner. baldguy Mar 2013 #8
guns have become WMDs in the u.s.a. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #10
I will agree with universal background checks and improving our mental healthcare system. ... spin Mar 2013 #11
You don't get any guarantees. You don't deserve any. baldguy Mar 2013 #12
Since I see no chance that you will be able to impose your ideas on me ... spin Mar 2013 #13
Because the goal of registration here would not be to 'solve crimes', jmg257 Mar 2013 #14
You state: spin Mar 2013 #15
"My efforts"?!? What efforts would those be? Posting on DU? jmg257 Mar 2013 #18
I would say that posting on DU on any subject is far more effort than most Americans are willing ... spin Mar 2013 #19
Ding ding ding! Posting on DU to pass time... jmg257 Mar 2013 #21
Guns can be used for good purpose or can cause tragedies. ... spin Mar 2013 #22
congrats on your "feral hog" defense...that's a new one! CTyankee Mar 2013 #20
All your arguments for gun control are also "old and shopworn." .... spin Mar 2013 #23
Since I never said "assault weapons are absolutely useless for hunting" you must be CTyankee Mar 2013 #24
No, you didn't state that but it is a common talking point for many gun control advocates. ... spin Mar 2013 #25
so glad you liked the link. I'm sure folks would be so pleased to hear about the Parc de CTyankee Mar 2013 #29
Well they do taste good. I can verify that. ... spin Mar 2013 #39
Why the fuck does anyone HAVE TO hunt boar? Jesus H. Christ. nt valerief Mar 2013 #28
They do not. Agschmid Mar 2013 #33
There is no hunting season for wild pigs in Florida. ... spin Mar 2013 #37
Umm I just meant it was 2013... Agschmid Mar 2013 #38
I live in one of the poorest counties in Florida. ... spin Mar 2013 #40
And therein lies the real problem... Agschmid Mar 2013 #42
True. But the cost of a bullet can help fill a freezer with meat. ... spin Mar 2013 #44
Yes it is great when a community works to help each other... Agschmid Mar 2013 #45
I realize that guns can cause tragedies but they also can save lives. ... spin Mar 2013 #49
If we don't they will over run our state. ... spin Mar 2013 #43
Yes... and? Agschmid Mar 2013 #46
LOL. I don't think a firearm will help you control your zebra mussel problem. ... spin Mar 2013 #50
Yah that was my point. Thanks. N/t Agschmid Mar 2013 #52
That was epic.... Agschmid Mar 2013 #32
You sure you are on the right website... Agschmid Mar 2013 #30
Fuck your sucky, death-wielding shit-ass guns. nt valerief Mar 2013 #26
You have every right to your opinion. Have a nice day. (n/t) spin Mar 2013 #41
that 'only assholes carry guns'.. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #9
Paranoid freaks. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2013 #16
Exactly. They have guns precisely because they think everyone else is about to attack them. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #36
It's not because they're armed, but because they're constitutionally fearful assholes alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #17
I consider anyone carrying a gun in my public spaces a threat to me. Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #27
Thread win. Agschmid Mar 2013 #34
Fortunately most people do not carry guns in their hands. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #35
Thankfully crime stats have shown us that 99%+ of those "assholes" justanidea Mar 2013 #47
Science & common sense disagree with you. baldguy Mar 2013 #48
And the laws examined in that study have justanidea Mar 2013 #51
Typical extremist RW gun weirdo logic: If the facts contradict your NRA dogma, ignore it. baldguy Mar 2013 #53
Exactly. Robb Mar 2013 #54
lol justanidea Mar 2013 #55
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