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In reply to the discussion: sexism, lets play. [View all]ElboRuum
(4,717 posts)219. Questions of degree are lost on you.
"You can support Amina's protest because she doesn't infringe on what you apparently perceive is men's god-given right to sit around making jokes on work time."
Oh, yes, this is precisely it. You've got me so pegged. Why don't you tell me what else I think?
"That her act took place in a context of chronically hostile working environments for women in that field and repeated rapes at their conferences is of course meaningless, as is the fact that Richards life is in danger too."
Oh, yes, I clearly see it now, yes, Richards life is in danger so similar to that of Amina, and hostile first-world work environment and culturally enabled homicide are so the same thing.
"You applaud Amina because you can externalize her concerns as part of a foreign world that fits the media stereotypes of Islam that you've been inculcated with in order to promote endless American war in the region."
So, THAT'S what I think, right, and all of these cut-off noses and death threats against female children attending school in the Islamic world are all just media hype for drone attacks and whatnot. Got it. Things never happen like that.
"Amina standing up for her rights doesn't affect your life."
Actually that's not entirely true. She's shown me what a real feminist is. That has affected my life greatly.
"Having to treat women as equal human beings in the workplace evidently makes you furious, even though labor law requires employers adhere to such policies."
Actually, I rather enjoy the idea of women being equal in the workplace, but since you know me better than I know myself, clearly I must be furious. Thanks for the correction.
The fact that 1 in 3 women in this country are subject to battery and rape again doesn't merit a mention from you. Only evil Islam threatens women. When American women are raped and killed, it just isn't the same is it? So what if more women are killed in domestic violence than in Algeria. You can't attribute that to an external Islamic other, so you'll just ignore that inconsequential loss of life.
Oh, I get it now. Attention to women's rights elsewhere in this world takes attention off of women in this country, who are CLEARLY so MUCH more in need of attention such that we can spare NOTHING AT ALL to take a moment and applaud this woman's courage.
Thanks for illustrating my point so perfectly.
I could say the same to you, you've just made the case for feminism, insofar as it has been represented by sea and now yourself, as being little more than an ego trip.
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Really? You're this upset because many people here don't see the Tunisian protests
polly7
Mar 2013
#1
Do you know about the Femen/Amina protest against Tunisian-Islamic oppression and subsequent edicts?
Kurovski
Mar 2013
#133
I agree "All opinions are equally valide," but a lot of what I read from feminists isn't opinion.
ZombieHorde
Mar 2013
#45
Ya know Sea, you spend a lot of time attacking the very people on your side
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#47
Funny. I think irrationally calling large numbers of liberals who support equality
EOTE
Mar 2013
#64
Yup.. ever the victim.. it's never their fault... and if you point out their incivility,
opiate69
Mar 2013
#68
TSS's argument isn't "she did it first" it was "why are you attacking good people?"
EOTE
Mar 2013
#71
Misandry is a far greater force on this board than it is in the general population.
EOTE
Mar 2013
#143
You go on and on about this "hostile environment" then cryptically tell me to read his response
EOTE
Mar 2013
#89
Hey.. I'm not running around accusing people of logical fallacy - which btw isn't actually one -
opiate69
Mar 2013
#78
badvocacy: support of a position that's indistinguishable from trolls trying to discredit it. n/t
winter is coming
Mar 2013
#93
I am now convinced that person is not, has never been, and will never be a feminist.
2ndAmForComputers
Mar 2013
#96
Thank you Elbo and LadyHawk for having more patience than I do to spell things out.
2ndAmForComputers
Mar 2013
#171
How about you point to a right he is not in favor of? He once spoke against the right to choose?
Threedifferentones
Mar 2013
#148
Surely you remember all those democrats talking about how women rape so easily...
EOTE
Mar 2013
#158
Just like in the religious books that warns followers that society will denounce its teachings...
Comrade_McKenzie
Mar 2013
#50
Every argument you enter ends up as a game. The game is the replacement for discussion.
Kurovski
Mar 2013
#102
I think you need more attention than this board can provide for you. n/t
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2013
#112
Or... we can respond to it and tell others why we find it so incredibly ignorant.
EOTE
Mar 2013
#151
Or we can take a page from some people's book and respond to threads we don't like by starting...
JVS
Mar 2013
#162
In other breaking new news, Kennedy shot, Normandy Beaches stormed, and Roman Empire has apparently
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#190
I'm sorry seabeyond. We just see things differently. I still consider you a feminist, but I have to
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#124
It's a piece of ring-and-run flamebait that should have been locked as Meta sniping. n/t
winter is coming
Mar 2013
#191
This is a funny picture about all discussions about sexism everywhere on the net.
redqueen
Mar 2013
#205
Well it is posted here now - so how about you address what I posted
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#206
Not whining about DU, but about some posters here, like folks in HOF do
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#213
The funniest was seeing some of meta's biggest "customers" go on and on about a "happy dance" when
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2013
#227
True enough, but it stands here in this thread as I reposted it here
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#214
And that means that now your post is/was only subject to jury review, like any other in-thread post.
Gormy Cuss
Mar 2013
#217
Great yet another thread by the OP. Her title says it all: " lets play" It's not a cause for her.
Katashi_itto
Apr 2013
#233