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BainsBane

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223. I think if we are to respect Amina

Sun Mar 31, 2013, 08:26 PM

Mar 2013

we should also respect Adria. I can say with certainty that I wouldn't have done what either did, but then I'm not in their situations. That guy's behavior violated EEOC law, which is probably why he was fired. Two guys from same company were telling jokes. Only one was fired. There has to be a reason for the difference, probably in their work records.

Most companies have procedures for launching harassment claims. If someone were fired at your place of employment for launching such a complaint, the employer would be in violation of labor law and subject to legal suit. Richards did not work at the same company as the two guys, so she Tweeted their comments to the conference managers. I failed to see if what they said was so inconsequential, why the Tweet should have even mattered. Both things can't be true. Either the comment was unimportant or it was actionable. Clearly the man's employer thought it was the latter.

What is most interesting to me about these two incidents is the public reaction, as I've already discussed.

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sexism, lets play. [View all] seabeyond Mar 2013 OP

Really? You're this upset because many people here don't see the Tunisian protests polly7 Mar 2013 #1

The egocentricism is appalling Melinda Mar 2013 #2

that strange feeling that.. arely staircase Mar 2013 #107

O-61. JTFrog Mar 2013 #5

You get to place a chip on the bingo card. nt NCTraveler Mar 2013 #12

Nah ........ but you go for it. polly7 Mar 2013 #15

B-2. JTFrog Mar 2013 #18

Now what an intelligent response. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #20

G-51. JTFrog Mar 2013 #22

Noooooo. Too boring. polly7 Mar 2013 #27

"the fight against sexism" = lol. psyops. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #41

She speaks for me and a whole lot of other women. I think we feminists need sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #118

B13. MadrasT Mar 2013 #141

+1 Roland99 Mar 2013 #39

There seems to be more than one person Phlem Mar 2013 #56

don't I know it Roland99 Mar 2013 #57

+1 Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #62

she probably can't see any of the responses arely staircase Mar 2013 #109

Compliance is protest! LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #42

"Your breasts are patriarchy!" lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #48

"Like Sammy with his..." Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #188

+1000! nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #95

Nevermind, I figured it out. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #44

"this upset" Scout Mar 2013 #46

Do you know about the Femen/Amina protest against Tunisian-Islamic oppression and subsequent edicts? Kurovski Mar 2013 #133

Remember, "if the liberal peen is keen, it must demean!" Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #187

OY! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #3

We need bingo chips pintobean Mar 2013 #4

Oh ffs! HappyMe Mar 2013 #6

+1 idwiyo Mar 2013 #51

"Some people aren't ashamed of the naked human body." UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #53

How do we decide who goes first? EOTE Mar 2013 #7

Jury results. Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #8

Can we see? nt EOTE Mar 2013 #13

Edited Adsos Letter Mar 2013 #14

Thanks... and I agree. EOTE Mar 2013 #17

Careful theKed Mar 2013 #25

But that's my favorite kind of rage. nt EOTE Mar 2013 #26

Then this thread theKed Mar 2013 #28

There are some people here who view it as a game. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #9

This isn't helping tkmorris Mar 2013 #10

Results of Jury Service WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #11

game the alert system? CBGLuthier Mar 2013 #31

Time for popcorn LittleBlue Mar 2013 #16

I didn't see one for holding open doors (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2013 #19

"How come my wife always makes me kill the spiders in the bathtub" Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #21

"How about YOU put the seat back up?" n/t zappaman Mar 2013 #23

Sexism posts abound. Apophis Mar 2013 #24

Yes.. let's play... opiate69 Mar 2013 #29

This OP went exactly as planned. EOTE Mar 2013 #30

And to think, I was thinking my day off was going to be nice and quiet.... opiate69 Mar 2013 #32

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #33

Posts like these really help the day go by quicker for me. EOTE Mar 2013 #34

well, we did have an attempt at a circumcision "discussion" CBGLuthier Mar 2013 #35

*rimshot* opiate69 Mar 2013 #36

How Short was it? BrainDrain Mar 2013 #38

I'm gonna hang in for the full card. theKed Mar 2013 #37

trendy pronoun neoligisms arely staircase Mar 2013 #114

lol.. if only I could claim creative authorship of it opiate69 Mar 2013 #115

Sorry, not cartoonish enough for me to play, LOL just1voice Mar 2013 #40

Ahh Karma Phlem Mar 2013 #43

I agree "All opinions are equally valide," but a lot of what I read from feminists isn't opinion. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #45

Ya know Sea, you spend a lot of time attacking the very people on your side The Straight Story Mar 2013 #47

Awesome post. This should be an OP. Thanks! nt EOTE Mar 2013 #49

+100! n/t zappaman Mar 2013 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Mar 2013 #58

I find this funny - she attacks people all day long The Straight Story Mar 2013 #59

I find it funny that it got a tie. Hayabusa Mar 2013 #92

Good jury! n/t zappaman Mar 2013 #63

Funny. I think irrationally calling large numbers of liberals who support equality EOTE Mar 2013 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Mar 2013 #66

Let me get this straight. EOTE Mar 2013 #67

Yup.. ever the victim.. it's never their fault... and if you point out their incivility, opiate69 Mar 2013 #68

Same shit zappaman Mar 2013 #69

Yeah, that pretty much covers it. nt EOTE Mar 2013 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Mar 2013 #70

TSS's argument isn't "she did it first" it was "why are you attacking good people?" EOTE Mar 2013 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Mar 2013 #73

and you lost that alert. Bummer huh? RetroLounge Mar 2013 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Mar 2013 #83

Oh, I'm sure TSS appreciates your free schooling of him RetroLounge Mar 2013 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Mar 2013 #87

"It was a tie!!" opiate69 Mar 2013 #86

That's almost as good as "she did it first!" EOTE Mar 2013 #90

Hope I would learn something? The Straight Story Mar 2013 #91

This might explain some behavior Phlem Mar 2013 #97

Misandry is a far greater force on this board than it is in the general population. EOTE Mar 2013 #143

His response to you? You mean this one? EOTE Mar 2013 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Mar 2013 #84

You go on and on about this "hostile environment" then cryptically tell me to read his response EOTE Mar 2013 #89

the OP Is about sexism BainsBane Mar 2013 #122

This is about the OP's persistent attack on good DUers. EOTE Mar 2013 #142

"I did not personally attack TSS I characterized his post" sibelian Mar 2013 #139

He was absolutely correct on all points. nt sibelian Mar 2013 #138

+1 Vinnie From Indy Mar 2013 #61

More tone bullshit. JTFrog Mar 2013 #74

And.. there it is again.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #75

From Mr. tact and diplomacy himself. JTFrog Mar 2013 #76

Hey.. I'm not running around accusing people of logical fallacy - which btw isn't actually one - opiate69 Mar 2013 #78

GFY. JTFrog Mar 2013 #81

Clever... opiate69 Mar 2013 #82

Hey, juror #6, you're supposed to read the thread HarveyDarkey Mar 2013 #88

+1 Phlem Mar 2013 #98

nice reply Phlem Mar 2013 #99

+1000 RetroLounge Mar 2013 #77

badvocacy: support of a position that's indistinguishable from trolls trying to discredit it. n/t winter is coming Mar 2013 #93

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #155

Classic. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #186

I am now convinced that person is not, has never been, and will never be a feminist. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #96

who made you king and decided you get to determine what is a feminist? BainsBane Mar 2013 #103

Well, actually. ElboRuum Mar 2013 #160

I have not seen her done any of what you charge BainsBane Mar 2013 #161

Not just once but several times LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #169

Thank you Elbo and LadyHawk for having more patience than I do to spell things out. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #171

Not by much. n/t LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #172

Yes, it does BainsBane Mar 2013 #177

I don't agree with what Richards did LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #180

agree BainsBane Mar 2013 #182

I can state with a fair amount of certainty LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #216

I think if we are to respect Amina BainsBane Mar 2013 #223

I would agree it sounds like their employers were looking LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #224

Sure you have. ElboRuum Mar 2013 #178

Someday maybe I too can be omniscient BainsBane Mar 2013 #181

If you think... ElboRuum Mar 2013 #197

I can only go by what I read BainsBane Mar 2013 #200

Your mistake... ElboRuum Mar 2013 #203

one is EEOC law BainsBane Mar 2013 #209

Questions of degree are lost on you. ElboRuum Mar 2013 #219

............. BainsBane Apr 2013 #225

Typical. ElboRuum Apr 2013 #237

This message was self-deleted by its author Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #234

yep libodem Mar 2013 #215

I wish I could recommend THIS POST!!!! nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #101

the fact is if you can't support human equality BainsBane Mar 2013 #104

Well.... The Straight Story Mar 2013 #108

so you support certain kinds of women BainsBane Mar 2013 #110

And it continues The Straight Story Mar 2013 #113

I did not attack you BainsBane Mar 2013 #116

How about you point to a right he is not in favor of? He once spoke against the right to choose? Threedifferentones Mar 2013 #148

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #159

From someone who has done nothing BainsBane Mar 2013 #183

All I have seen BainsBane Mar 2013 #167

Really? Seriously? Ok - let me show you The Straight Story Mar 2013 #212

Reproductive rights BainsBane Mar 2013 #193

Surely you remember all those democrats talking about how women rape so easily... EOTE Mar 2013 #158

Like the OP supports certain kinds of men. EOTE Mar 2013 #157

I did read his post BainsBane Mar 2013 #174

+1000 Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #105

The "must read" post of this latest barrage theKed Mar 2013 #106

I know BainsBane Mar 2013 #125

ic arely staircase Mar 2013 #126

only as an adjective BainsBane Mar 2013 #127

and democrat is a noun arely staircase Mar 2013 #129

I know BainsBane Mar 2013 #130

and the common (mis) usage is democratic is as an adverb arely staircase Mar 2013 #134

Oh really? BainsBane Mar 2013 #135

nope "They vote Democrat and that makes them special." arely staircase Mar 2013 #136

Wrong BainsBane Mar 2013 #137

Right. I'm sure you'll be more careful next time. arely staircase Mar 2013 #146

If you ever summon the courage BainsBane Mar 2013 #164

This thread should clear things up. EOTE Mar 2013 #153

I know grammar very well, thank you BainsBane Mar 2013 #165

"Vote Democrat" is the term republicans use. arely staircase Mar 2013 #166

"and only you get it and know and understand it." arely staircase Mar 2013 #111

+1,000 !!!! Very well said, indeed. nt MADem Mar 2013 #121

+ >9000! Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #147

Anti-choice propaganda BainsBane Mar 2013 #192

Nope - was pointing out what others were saying The Straight Story Mar 2013 #195

You won't engage BainsBane Mar 2013 #196

Funny, that same image was posted later by someone The Straight Story Mar 2013 #198

I was continually told the threats were irrelevant BainsBane Mar 2013 #201

Ok The Straight Story Mar 2013 #204

I haven't beaten you down at all BainsBane Apr 2013 #226

6-0 Leave. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #199

Just like in the religious books that warns followers that society will denounce its teachings... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #50

You just proved this is an Sissyk Mar 2013 #52

That's all it is, a game. And it makes women look bad. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #119

Snork UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #55

Well, it is Good Friday. N/t Prism Mar 2013 #60

Cool! It's a game now? 11 Bravo Mar 2013 #65

What are you talking about? BainsBane Mar 2013 #132

Take a look at the history of the OP's posts and you'll begin to see a pattern. EOTE Mar 2013 #144

And, yet chervilant Apr 2013 #229

you poor thing you k&r d_b Mar 2013 #94

Yes, poor little thing. K&R EOTE Mar 2013 #149

Message auto-removed april dreamweaver Mar 2013 #100

Every argument you enter ends up as a game. The game is the replacement for discussion. Kurovski Mar 2013 #102

+1 nt EOTE Mar 2013 #150

I think you need more attention than this board can provide for you. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #112

If you don't like a thread, you can skip it BainsBane Mar 2013 #131

Or... we can respond to it and tell others why we find it so incredibly ignorant. EOTE Mar 2013 #151

Or we can take a page from some people's book and respond to threads we don't like by starting... JVS Mar 2013 #162

If you have a point BainsBane Mar 2013 #179

okay, so what is ignorant about the image above? BainsBane Mar 2013 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #175

Thanks for the reminder DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #154

It would seem to me BainsBane Mar 2013 #170

We're doing our best! sibelian Mar 2013 #140

Who knew Bingo could be so much fun? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #117

Oh it's you again. CokeMachine Mar 2013 #120

We're clearly dealing with an attention starved masochist here. EOTE Mar 2013 #152

In other breaking new news, Kennedy shot, Normandy Beaches stormed, and Roman Empire has apparently Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #190

Spot. On! Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #123

I'm sorry seabeyond. We just see things differently. I still consider you a feminist, but I have to liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #124

What definition of feminism is contained in this OP? BainsBane Mar 2013 #128

Trashed Puglover Mar 2013 #145

I'll take freedom of speech!!!! for $200 snooper2 Mar 2013 #156

seabeyond, I'm also trashing your thread, and I gotta say quinnox Mar 2013 #163

"recently?" 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #173

It is just a list of things right wing sexists say treestar Mar 2013 #176

Because blatant shit-stirring is obvious LittleBlue Mar 2013 #184

How is it that? treestar Mar 2013 #185

And, apparently, chervilant Apr 2013 #230

yes, it is brilliant arely staircase Mar 2013 #189

I don't see anyone saying "don't say those things" treestar Mar 2013 #221

no you are just labeled a sexist if you do arely staircase Apr 2013 #235

It's a piece of ring-and-run flamebait that should have been locked as Meta sniping. n/t winter is coming Mar 2013 #191

What's so inflaming here? treestar Mar 2013 #222

How is this theKed Mar 2013 #194

I wonder the same. Go Vols Mar 2013 #202

This is a funny picture about all discussions about sexism everywhere on the net. redqueen Mar 2013 #205

Well it is posted here now - so how about you address what I posted The Straight Story Mar 2013 #206

Snark pictures - yes theKed Mar 2013 #207

Read the part about "whining about DU" again. redqueen Mar 2013 #208

Are you seriously of the opinion that theKed Mar 2013 #210

Not whining about DU, but about some posters here, like folks in HOF do The Straight Story Mar 2013 #213

The funniest was seeing some of meta's biggest "customers" go on and on about a "happy dance" when Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #227

Perfect description of the problem. sibelian Apr 2013 #228

Because TSS's OP was clearly Meta, not GD. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #211

True enough, but it stands here in this thread as I reposted it here The Straight Story Mar 2013 #214

And that means that now your post is/was only subject to jury review, like any other in-thread post. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #217

And yet this, a clearly Meta thread, theKed Mar 2013 #218

Because juries aren't hiding enough posts Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #220

Let's have a little Socratic detour, shall we? chervilant Apr 2013 #231

We'll clean up this dongle of a message board yet! snooper2 Apr 2013 #232

Great yet another thread by the OP. Her title says it all: " lets play" It's not a cause for her. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #233

Can I steal this? the MRA idiots on Reddit need to see this. Odin2005 Apr 2013 #236