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freshwest

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26. I was re-reading The Age Of Reason by my fave, Thomas Paine. The introduction says:

Mon Apr 1, 2013, 03:14 AM

Apr 2013

TO MY FELLOW-CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

I PUT the following work under your protection. It contains my opinions upon Religion. You will do me the justice to remember, that I have always strenuously supported the Right of every Man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine.

He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.

The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is Reason. I have never used any other, and I trust I never shall.

Your affectionate friend and fellow-citizen,

THOMAS PAINE

Luxembourg, 8th Pluviose, Second Year of the French Republic, one and indivisible.

January 27, O. S. 1794.

I emboldened those parts since, while denying others their freedom (of opinion) they deny themselves freedom. This is where they are stuck and should be told how they have enslaved themselves to what they have been told to believe or think.

JMHO.

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Hehehe. Good one. freshwest Apr 2013 #24

I was surprised I even had to point out the flaw in his thinking magellan Apr 2013 #25

I was re-reading The Age Of Reason by my fave, Thomas Paine. The introduction says: freshwest Apr 2013 #26

Love it magellan Apr 2013 #27

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