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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
42. Yes,
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 09:20 AM
Apr 2013

"And that was the genius of FDR. He tried things. When they failed, he moved on. FDR tried austerity in 1937. It didn't work. So he turned to serious Keynsian pump priming just one year later, and that worked out pretty well, no? After that, FDR permanently shed his economic conservatism and became a Liberal - for the same reason that Elizabeth Warren (and I) eventually became Liberals - because Liberal policies work better. Plain and simple. "

...FDR tried a policy in his second term, and unemployment climbed back up to 20 percent. He turned it around with the help of a 76-seat Democratic majority. Could you imagine what Elizabeth Warren could do with a 76-seat majority? Such a majority in the last half of the President's first term would have passed this:

The Jobs Program That Wasn’t

Macroeconomic Advisers on the American Jobs Act, proposed a year ago:

We estimate that the American Jobs Act (AJA), if enacted, would give a significant boost to GDP and employment over the near-term.

-The various tax cuts aimed at raising workers’ after-tax income and encouraging hiring and investing, combined with the spending increases aimed at maintaining state & local employment and funding infrastructure modernization, would:
-Boost the level of GDP by 1.3% by the end of 2012, and by 0.2% by the end of 2013.
-Raise nonfarm establishment employment by 1.3 million by the end of 2012 and 0.8 million by the end of 2013, relative to the baseline

Of course, it that had happened, Obama would be more or less a lock for reelection. Instead, having blocked the president’s economic plans, Republicans can point to weak job growth and claim that the president’s policies have failed.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/the-jobs-program-that-wasnt/

President Obama is in the third month of his second term.

The economy is recovering and Republicans are determined to destroy it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022505883

Paul Krugman Destroys GOP’s Talking Points On Government Jobs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022304886


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thanks ProSense for answering the Cha Mar 2013 #1
How about ProSense Mar 2013 #4
Nope i was not duped into voting for Obama but really we did not have a choice. Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #2
+1 progressoid Mar 2013 #5
duped kardonb Mar 2013 #7
That's the way to phrase it: We really had no choice but to vote for Obama. byeya Mar 2013 #8
Duped? Are you f_ _ king kidding? brush Mar 2013 #28
Nope. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #3
Not me -- I wanted to vote for him. gateley Mar 2013 #6
The duping always comes after the vote. zeemike Mar 2013 #9
blah, blah, blah, gloom and doom......... George II Mar 2013 #11
Well you may be right...he may not be born yet. zeemike Mar 2013 #15
That's vile, and ProSense Mar 2013 #13
Vial?...Really? zeemike Mar 2013 #16
No, vile, and that was only one word in my response. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #21
But clearly the most powerful. zeemike Mar 2013 #22
But.but.but..he only did 99.5% of what we want - where's the other half %? Seriously, excellent... George II Apr 2013 #43
Barack Obama nominated Elizabeth Warren... cheapdate Mar 2013 #24
Well I am cynical for sure. zeemike Mar 2013 #26
President Obama's Supreme Court pick, Elena Kagan, OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #32
Sacrilege! You are only supposed to post positive spin in the altar threads!!! Dragonfli Apr 2013 #34
Throughout ProSense Apr 2013 #40
perhaps, perhaps also throughout history there have been and will alway be Dragonfli Apr 2013 #44
Or ProSense Apr 2013 #47
You can do better than that, you're a PRO at this sort of thing /nt Dragonfli Apr 2013 #57
Spare me ProSense Apr 2013 #59
OK, consider your self spared, I find you just as tiresome as you find me Dragonfli Apr 2013 #63
Well said, ProSense. Bogus Anti-Everything Venomous Cha Apr 2013 #60
Health care law, ProSense Apr 2013 #69
Yeah, they have a haterade Venomous Drip for Cha Apr 2013 #70
Until a corporate Democrat loses an election, of course. Marr Apr 2013 #110
An altar thread. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #56
Some balsa, but to be fair the villains are made of straw, poppits of "haters" Dragonfli Apr 2013 #58
That's the problem with ProSense Apr 2013 #39
Weak sauce. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #45
"Weak sauce"? ProSense Apr 2013 #46
Everybody knows OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #48
Actually ProSense Apr 2013 #49
If you are unable OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #50
You mean ProSense Apr 2013 #51
You've got nothing, ProSense. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #53
A lot more than the tired crap you're posting. n/t ProSense Apr 2013 #54
Went in fully informed. And, continuing to kick the asses of the haters who choose to be blind. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #10
Wasn't duped at all. Proudly voted for him. Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #12
Nothing? Not even the Patriot Act and continued domestic spying? nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #67
Barack Hussein Obama will go down as one of the greatest presidents this country has ever seen!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2013 #14
Maybe it has something ProSense Mar 2013 #17
Unemployment dropped by 40% and GDP grew 9%+ per year during FDR's first term MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #29
Why ProSense Mar 2013 #30
Ok. When did FDR first take office? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #31
It went ProSense Apr 2013 #33
So from 25% to 15% - a 40% drop MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #41
Yes, ProSense Apr 2013 #42
Duped no not ever! sheshe2 Mar 2013 #18
most people weren't stupidicus Mar 2013 #19
I definitely ProSense Mar 2013 #20
that's understandable, and some would say predictable stupidicus Mar 2013 #25
Hey, ProSense Mar 2013 #27
really? stupidicus Apr 2013 #71
Really? ProSense Apr 2013 #72
thanks for assisting me in validating my point stupidicus Apr 2013 #73
Oh, so ProSense Apr 2013 #74
the truth is never insulting stupidicus Apr 2013 #88
Here's ProSense Apr 2013 #89
thanks for tacitly conceding the validity of my observation and remarks again stupidicus Apr 2013 #90
Wait ProSense Apr 2013 #91
yes, your continual tacit concessions stupidicus Apr 2013 #92
You make no sense. n/t ProSense Apr 2013 #93
admissions as to your struggles with plain and simple english are welcomed as well stupidicus Apr 2013 #94
LOL! ProSense Apr 2013 #95
my my, the always stupid "LOL" dodge/defense stupidicus Apr 2013 #96
LOL! ProSense Apr 2013 #97
nobody has cringed or achieved a state of panic stupidicus Apr 2013 #98
No ProSense Apr 2013 #99
that should take an eternity, given the likely size of it stupidicus Apr 2013 #100
Wait ProSense Apr 2013 #101
dodgers don't debate, they just change the subject stupidicus Apr 2013 #103
Hey, ProSense Apr 2013 #104
you're the one with a heavy reliance on links, "c&ps", etc stupidicus Apr 2013 #105
Cool ProSense Apr 2013 #108
k&r... spanone Mar 2013 #23
No regrets here Hekate Apr 2013 #35
Not I. Unlike some, I can see both sides. To me, his positives are weighted by what he had to patrice Apr 2013 #36
The duping was on the other side quaker bill Apr 2013 #37
I voted for him with eyes wide open madokie Apr 2013 #38
Nope. I tagged him as just another 3rd Way politician when he promised to escalate the war Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #52
I feel duped as hell. I heard him say with my own ears at a rally I attended that he forestpath Apr 2013 #55
Common mistake you made, not learning the the 3rd way euphemisms for cutting, Dragonfli Apr 2013 #62
Yes, in thirdwayspeak, "sacrifice" means it's the poor/middle class/elderly/sick who must suffer. forestpath Apr 2013 #65
So ProSense Apr 2013 #75
This is why I voted for Pres Obama.. 3rd way my Democratic Arse.. Cha Apr 2013 #61
No I wasn't duped Progressive dog Apr 2013 #64
Well, I guess I was duped in the same way as Elizabeth Warren. MineralMan Apr 2013 #66
Well, I sure wasn't duped into voting for Romney or McCain. LeftInTX Apr 2013 #68
Awww how cute. Rex Apr 2013 #76
Never felt duped. I'm as proud of him today as I was when he announced his first run. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #77
I love the smell of burnt ... 99Forever Apr 2013 #78
Clearly ProSense Apr 2013 #79
You do realize by now... 99Forever Apr 2013 #80
Then ProSense Apr 2013 #81
Wow... 99Forever Apr 2013 #82
LOL! ProSense Apr 2013 #83
Uh no... 99Forever Apr 2013 #84
Well, ProSense Apr 2013 #85
Actually.. 99Forever Apr 2013 #86
LOL! ProSense Apr 2013 #87
More of a vote *against* Romney, really... nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #102
as was the case for many stupidicus Apr 2013 #106
Unfortunately I think he'll go down as another Bill Clinton - brilliant man, mediocre president. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #107
The good thing is ProSense Apr 2013 #111
Perhaps. He does have a whole term left, practically. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #112
or worse stupidicus Apr 2013 #113
Wait ProSense Apr 2013 #114
No, ProSense Apr 2013 #109
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