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56. I think Proudhon may have only been talking about land and buildings

Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:50 AM

Apr 2013

when he said "property is theft" and generally if you go far enough back in its history somebody first stole the land from somebody else, for any given piece of land.

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If the top 80% had to give up all assets/ownership to be equal to bottom20%,would you? [View all] graham4anything Apr 2013 OP

Who's stronger: Tarzan or Flash Gordon? JHB Apr 2013 #1

You see, this is a topic the 1/99%ers never will acknowledge with their rants. graham4anything Apr 2013 #2

Damn Straight! They never want to admit Buck Rogers can kick both their asses... JHB Apr 2013 #3

. Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2013 #32

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #52

Some people read your posts and ask why. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #4

Yep, I'm there. bemildred Apr 2013 #5

"Property is theft" TimberValley Apr 2013 #29

I think Proudhon may have only been talking about land and buildings hfojvt Apr 2013 #56

Yep, that's it, first you let one homeless man have a toothbrush, bemildred Apr 2013 #68

Property is theft. Property is liberty. Property is impossible. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #73

Indeed. bemildred Apr 2013 #117

I stole my own car? Throd Apr 2013 #74

No, I would not be okay with that. LWolf Apr 2013 #6

Of course not FBaggins Apr 2013 #7

I assume you mean national not global CBGLuthier Apr 2013 #8

No. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #9

Silly and No... Sharpie Apr 2013 #10

The short answer is no. badtoworse Apr 2013 #11

No. tom2255 Apr 2013 #12

Hello tom2255. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #18

Welcome to DU, tom2255 pinboy3niner Apr 2013 #19

The figures would be more like "if the top 20% had to give up assets to have wealth = the bottom 80% muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #13

One for all, No more, no less. graham4anything Apr 2013 #17

Such a drastic cut would mean everybody giving up ownership of their homes muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #22

Everyone. graham4anything Apr 2013 #24

I still think you're a Third Way parody. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #25

OK, I read that as saying you knew your OP idea was silly muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #35

Only one poster so far (response #20 i believe) got the correct answer graham4anything Apr 2013 #36

+1 Tien1985 Apr 2013 #61

Everyone pipi_k Apr 2013 #97

Bad strawman is bad. theKed Apr 2013 #118

That completely changes the question IndyPragmatist123 Apr 2013 #96

No thanks. geek_sabre Apr 2013 #14

And I don't even think there are 320 million people in the United States, period. TimberValley Apr 2013 #27

What's stopping you from just giving your shit away? pinboy3niner Apr 2013 #15

what a stupid post. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #16

Interesting concept. I don't see Americana willing to join ranks with the poor. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #20

so far as of 10am eastern, you gave the best answer graham4anything Apr 2013 #39

Sadly ... I accept that award. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #40

Then set the example and do so hobbit709 Apr 2013 #21

No happy medium between Pure "COMM'NISM" and Pure Capitalism, right? HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #23

Sure, because there's nothing wrong with confiscation of property by force. TimberValley Apr 2013 #26

So, do you plan to do this periodically? TimberValley Apr 2013 #28

Nope. Squinch Apr 2013 #30

That's really skewed. Newest Reality Apr 2013 #31

Why are people even replying seriously to this stupid shit? Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2013 #33

I sure ain't. HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #42

Don't look below but now Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2013 #53

Seems to be going on in a lot of places . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #84

The question is: For how long? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2013 #86

Never has one man cranked out so many mindless words. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #44

To paraphrase this or that singer (even though I'm actually quoting them): "Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2013 #45

Mimes Silently Farting Make More Sense HangOnKids Apr 2013 #91

Sadly, it seems to have dug in. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #93

Like a tick. n/t cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #111

. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #112

ROFL!!! +1 kdmorris Apr 2013 #100

If everyone gave up their homes mainer Apr 2013 #34

Top 80% (lol) whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #37

No. I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Communist Party. dawg Apr 2013 #38

No el_bryanto Apr 2013 #41

The focus should be on policies that benefit the 1% at the expense of the 99%. nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #43

And how does that the next morning, give the lowest 20% anything at all? graham4anything Apr 2013 #46

What I suggested does not involve tearing down the rich nt stevenleser Apr 2013 #47

This reads like some freeper trying to be clever. nt rrneck Apr 2013 #48

Maybe because it is. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #54

...and failing at that. nt Union Scribe Apr 2013 #59

As does everything this person posts... SomethingFishy Apr 2013 #75

If at first you don't succeed... bluedigger Apr 2013 #83

So I'd have to go through my house and put a value on every piece of junk I own? kudzu22 Apr 2013 #49

Show me where there is anything for the 20% worst off? I don't see it graham4anything Apr 2013 #50

dont play the game... Locrian Apr 2013 #58

You could found Communists Against the Left cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #51

How about the top 1% pay their fair share in taxes? Iggo Apr 2013 #55

Yeah right, Mr. "first they came for the rich" Union Scribe Apr 2013 #57

If I was 30yrs younger One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #60

You are creating a false dichotomy of choices throughout this thread. DebJ Apr 2013 #62

OK, but when will the bottom 20 move up the ladder? graham4anything Apr 2013 #66

Neither does a system where everyone has equal everything. DebJ Apr 2013 #105

That's a painfully stupid question Spider Jerusalem Apr 2013 #63

All librarians across America will tell you there are no stupid questions graham4anything Apr 2013 #113

I believe there are, actually, stupid questions... yawnmaster Apr 2013 #114

Sometimes the truth is telling. Sometimes the answers are silent. graham4anything Apr 2013 #116

doubtful. eom yawnmaster Apr 2013 #121

I am a librarian, and I disagree Angus86 Apr 2013 #119

Your slip is showing. Rex Apr 2013 #64

How about we start with 'The Great Equalizer' RZM Apr 2013 #65

This doesn't make sense Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #67

Why not retitle this thread "Communism?" TimberValley Apr 2013 #69

As John Lennon said, Imagine if...however socialism is not communism,neither purely ever tried graham4anything Apr 2013 #70

Multi-millionaire John Lennon? Throd Apr 2013 #72

Fuck no. name not needed Apr 2013 #71

no bowens43 Apr 2013 #76

I would be OK with the top 2% Jamaal510 Apr 2013 #77

Why are we always in a race to the bottom? upaloopa Apr 2013 #78

No dr.strangelove Apr 2013 #79

April Fool! Jenoch Apr 2013 #80

Yeah... Dr. Strange Apr 2013 #122

No. We are all slightly dumber having pondered your proposal. Throd Apr 2013 #81

You first. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #82

... bluedigger Apr 2013 #85

After posting that large picture(known tactic), then what? graham4anything Apr 2013 #87

A simple "wrong" may have done just fine... zaireeka Apr 2013 #88

Is this Vogon poetry or an Apr 1st joke? suffragette Apr 2013 #89

But how would Mike Bloomberg function in life? Would you expempt him so he could keep the Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #90

Actually, 75% of the time, he takes the NYC subway or walks with just a newspaper graham4anything Apr 2013 #94

If Wendall has 7 apples olddots Apr 2013 #92

You talking assets or income? Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #95

Why would anyone be a neurosurgeon when they could be paid as much for a much easier job? TimberValley Apr 2013 #98

Actually, wouldn't a janitor have a harder job than a surgeon? graham4anything Apr 2013 #120

To please the eighteen people who want everyone equal? No. Orsino Apr 2013 #99

APRIL FOOLS JI7 Apr 2013 #101

I'm in the lower 20% JNelson6563 Apr 2013 #102

I can't figure out (too complicated for my wee brain) where I mercymechap Apr 2013 #103

So the problem with poverty in America is there isn't enough of it, according to Graham? TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #104

I'm curious to see how you propose that the confiscation be done. TimberValley Apr 2013 #106

First step would be to amend the Constitution Major Nikon Apr 2013 #107

Why the number "80%"? We could just use the figure "1%." WinkyDink Apr 2013 #108

This is the WORST 'if, then' statement I've ever seen on DU. Rex Apr 2013 #109

Instead of bringing everybody down to the bottom 20% level,...... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #110

If one wants to do it, why not just do it? why wait for the rest of the 80%? yawnmaster Apr 2013 #115

I'm a member of the top 80%, and I would do whatever it takes to avoid compliance slackmaster Apr 2013 #123

Who is this supposed to parody? Silent3 Apr 2013 #124