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Kelvin Mace

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54. Huh?

Mon Apr 1, 2013, 04:47 PM

Apr 2013

"The only reason Consumer Reports exists is because companies pay them to give positive reviews for their products. Whoever pays the most gets the best rating."

Could you cite your sources? I have followed Consumer's Union for years and they accept no ad money, pay for their own test products and accept no money from any manufacturer.

Neither CU nor CR name a "Car of the Year", that is done by Motortrend. The K Car did appear on the cover of CR back when it came out, but only because of a story on Chrysler's attempt to get back in the game. The car received poor marks and was never recommended.

The 2013 Fusion is currently scored an 82 by CR, with above average marks in most categories (reliability is not scored since the 2013 model year is a "refresh" The 2008-2012 model years rate "Best" except for minor transmission problems in the 2010-2011 model years.

I don't know where you are getting your info about CR, but I have read the magazine for almost 30 years now, and have found them to be highly reliable, unbiased and openly honest when they makes errors.

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Best cars for 2013 from Consumer Reports [View all] steve2470 Mar 2013 OP

Those four suck moose cock. Consumer Reports sold out LONG ago. talkingmime Mar 2013 #1

I am not in the market, but this is a really great looking vehicle! Ruby the Liberal Mar 2013 #5

Yeah, that's hot for an economy car. I'm more in the Ford Flex category now. talkingmime Mar 2013 #9

Mine is a 2007, so I have 6-7 more years to go before I even think about it. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2013 #10

Subaru Outbacks, made by AFL-CIO labor in Lafayette, Indiana. politicat Apr 2013 #62

Throw a set of Michelin HydroEdge tires on it and you can go anywhere. talkingmime Apr 2013 #79

My wife was in the market for a new car not long ago, and seriously considered the Fusion. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #31

Ford Fusion is now based upon a European design JPZenger Apr 2013 #68

I can see that now that you said it Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #70

They can throw things at me too. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #71

I've been doing Japanese cars all my adult life. Had good results with Nissans and Toyotas. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #72

I'm curious about the C-MAX. winter is coming Apr 2013 #42

Our next car madokie Apr 2013 #44

It is my understanding that Consumers Union, the people SheilaT Mar 2013 #19

MAN is it hard to find information about that! I learned a lot more than... talkingmime Apr 2013 #22

I also tried an on-line search for that SheilaT Apr 2013 #26

Yeah, but find a minivan with an manual tranny!!! talkingmime Apr 2013 #28

Bingo. That's an important reason I've never had one. SheilaT Apr 2013 #39

I've got a 2000 Pontiac Montana 3.4 ltr and it kicks ASS with an auto. talkingmime Apr 2013 #40

Hondas. Civics and to a lessere extent Accords. SheilaT Apr 2013 #48

If I can't put a full 4'x8' sheet of plywood in the back, AND close the hatch, I'm not interested. talkingmime Apr 2013 #51

I can't find my tape measure right now, SheilaT Apr 2013 #61

Actually, my daughter's Camry has a huge trunk too, and is a fairly large car, but... talkingmime Apr 2013 #78

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if my SheilaT Apr 2013 #84

Yeah, I always thought of Camrys as small cars, but they're a good sized sedan! talkingmime Apr 2013 #85

Take the Camry, make it a hatchback quakerboy Apr 2013 #101

I don't have a fucking clue what you meant by any of that. The Matrix is a piece of shit. talkingmime Apr 2013 #103

Wow. quakerboy Apr 2013 #104

I pull a 1200# capacity trailer with a Toyota Echo tabasco Apr 2013 #94

Yeah, I've got a class 4 hitch on the Montana. It will pull anything. talkingmime Apr 2013 #95

Its also rather nice to get 40mpg tabasco Apr 2013 #96

Yeah, 40 is good. My wife's Plymouth Horizon hatchback got about 38. talkingmime Apr 2013 #97

You can get the Mazda 5 (mini-van) in a manual transmission... colinmom71 Apr 2013 #73

All The Women RobinA Apr 2013 #90

Probably "Motortrend" Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #56

Yeah, I thought about it and it was probably Motor Trend. talkingmime Apr 2013 #58

Someone donw thread Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #64

The Mustang, Charger, Challenger, and Vette didn't make the list? Weird. talkingmime Apr 2013 #80

Actually, Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #86

Yeah, I forgot the Camero. It's a pretty sweet ride. But Mustang V6? talkingmime Apr 2013 #87

Don't know Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #88

I've got a 3.8 in my Sable and a 3.4 in my Montana - both V6, but a Mustang? talkingmime Apr 2013 #89

I believe you are correct about it being Motor Trend. ieoeja Apr 2013 #67

Yeah, I woke up about 3 in the morning and had a clear memory of it being Motor Trend. talkingmime Apr 2013 #81

It's Obvious RobinA Apr 2013 #92

Consumer Reports Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #55

I don't think my Prius is capable of sucking moose cock. rightsideout Mar 2013 #20

They make an electric Escort? And whoa, whoa, whoa, you've got a dragster? talkingmime Apr 2013 #23

Translated to standard English, I believe that means LanternWaste Apr 2013 #34

That's not standard English, that's Republican - D'OH! D'OH! D'OH! talkingmime Apr 2013 #38

Bingo Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #46

Agreed Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #57

I have the 2013 Accord Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #41

My 91 Escort wagon is in a friend's ownership now and she's up around 350K and still running. talkingmime Apr 2013 #45

Have fun Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #47

I bought the Accord 2013 laureloak Apr 2013 #49

I'm having similar experiences with the mileage Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #50

My '87 Escort ate transmissions. It was a piece of crap. I think they made them better later. mucifer Apr 2013 #74

So did my 91. I had two of them die on me. They were Mazda 323 transmissions. talkingmime Apr 2013 #83

Ha quakerboy Apr 2013 #102

Huh? Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #54

In my opinion my 2013 Ford Mustang is the best car for me. upaloopa Apr 2013 #76

Why in the hell would you use that language? Disgusting and childish. Wow, failure. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #98

No thanks d_r Mar 2013 #2

Indeed. LAGC Mar 2013 #12

I've never had a car with better AC then my Chevy Cavalier Skittles Mar 2013 #14

It warms up pretty quick too. LAGC Mar 2013 #16

This Is True RobinA Apr 2013 #29

when I got a Civic Skittles Apr 2013 #75

Believe It Or Not RobinA Apr 2013 #93

My '90 560 SEL will still be running when those cars are in salvage yards. DollarBillHines Mar 2013 #3

My '72 Chevy Blazer will pull them out of ditches all day long. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #4

I drove my 70 chevelle to work on Thursday. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #6

Power windows, automatic headlights, and cruise control... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #7

Hell yeah. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #8

Heck, it's almost nice enough out to take off the roof and doors. bluedigger Mar 2013 #11

Nuh uh... I can go topless too. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #13

Old school Blazer. bluedigger Mar 2013 #15

It sure will. parkia00 Apr 2013 #77

VW otherone Mar 2013 #17

They have a really cool version now Mnpaul Apr 2013 #25

I like the ground clearance on the old one. :( Marr Apr 2013 #91

It's not complete until you slap some Dead stickers on it. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #33

1995 Volvo 940 wagon. longship Mar 2013 #18

Boring and horrible. flvegan Mar 2013 #21

What a nice change! Fawke Em Apr 2013 #24

They cannot bring themselves to pick an American car, can they? Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #27

Their tests are objective and thorough alarimer Apr 2013 #30

CU does not test cars. It is just a survey. n/t ieoeja Apr 2013 #65

Not everyone sees everything through the lens of a pre-determined ideological agenda. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #32

Well the Accord is built here Mnpaul Apr 2013 #36

that's good information nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #37

Not a single American vehicle made their list steve2470 Apr 2013 #35

They never pick American vehicles. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #43

Accord vs Silverado from the underside One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #60

Really? Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #63

ah ok steve2470 Apr 2013 #66

The story is going to focus on the top scores Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #69

Only cars worth owning on that list are the BRZ/FR-S justanidea Apr 2013 #52

But they make Japanese cars here! Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #53

Thanks, I buy union made American cars. JNelson6563 Apr 2013 #59

The last time I let CR help me make a decision madokie Apr 2013 #82

LOL, no logic in that decision but good for you. Many others would disagree with you. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #100

I love my Ohio built accord. And my BIL loves working there. Best job he ever had. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #99