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DonCoquixote

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39. No one told Kim nor his princes what to do

Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:38 PM

Apr 2013

Not even the Chinese that poured the blood of their own young sons and daughters into their soil. The Us may make messes, yes, but the Kims are no Ches, Fidels, or even ho chi minhs that left their lands better than what they had. You can invoke justice, but the Kims are so bad that anyone trying to argue that they are not a bunch of agressive, greedy scum will wind up losing.

http://docs.house.gov/meetings/FA/FA00/20130305/100436/HHRG-113-FA00-Wstate-LeeS-20130305.pdf
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2010/02/a_nation_of_racist_dwarfs.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kim/them/defector.html

Note, I made a point to stay away from right wing sources; you do not have to be right wing to realize the Kim regime is a menace. War would be bad, and must be avoided, but we need not deny that the kims have been driving this boat.

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Prosecutable US Crimes Against Humanity In Korea [View all] L0oniX Apr 2013 OP

Tell ya what DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #1

Given the background I wonder how it would be if the US had not bullied their way into Korea. L0oniX Apr 2013 #2

Bullied their way into Korea? hack89 Apr 2013 #3

Not too unlike the Chinese sponsored N. Vietnam? L0oniX Apr 2013 #7

Look at NK - a starving population, prison camps, illegal arm sales, a total police state hack89 Apr 2013 #8

You guys are always trying to reframe ...give it up. L0oniX Apr 2013 #11

SK is a thriving democracy because the US interfered hack89 Apr 2013 #12

The ends justify the means? So it was ok for the US to kill the refugees? L0oniX Apr 2013 #13

Of course not. But the good outweighed the bad. hack89 Apr 2013 #14

Have you posted any demands to prosecute the North Korean regime and its allies geek tragedy Apr 2013 #18

Yea sure I'll demand that ...while we perpetrate our own barbaric atrocities upon the innocent. L0oniX Apr 2013 #25

what specifically and objectively leads you to believe that premise? LanternWaste Apr 2013 #32

+1 HiPointDem Apr 2013 #4

I've missed you in the Korea threads!!! nt msanthrope Apr 2013 #5

Something familiar, kind of rings a Bell doesn't it!! grantcart Apr 2013 #53

... SidDithers Apr 2013 #15

Thanks for your wonderful insightful contribution to discussion about war crimes. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #28

You mean, like the post he replied to? pintobean Apr 2013 #46

...and yours. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #49

What do you think Korea would be like right now had the US/UN stayed out of Korea? octothorpe Apr 2013 #35

I don't know. It's the war crimes that I care about ...then and especially now. L0oniX Apr 2013 #47

No one told Kim nor his princes what to do DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #39

I don't see any "denial". I do see some reference notes and sources at the bottom... L0oniX Apr 2013 #50

Get on the internet and ask some people from South Korea what they think. tabasco Apr 2013 #52

No Gun Ri Massacre dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #6

"whitewash." is putting it in the most mild form possible. The US gov and some of its citizens... L0oniX Apr 2013 #10

Time article from 1999 here dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #19

Thank you for that. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #29

Are you aware that we blew up bridges while hundreds of refugees were on the bridges? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #69

As suggested in your post, I did "see the bio about the writer" MineralMan Apr 2013 #9

this is simply inaccurate and ahistorical. cali Apr 2013 #16

See post #6 and #19 if you think its a fairytale. dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #20

Typical type of response from you. No discussion ...just attack. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #23

It's one thing to discuss war crimes. It's another to act as a stenographer of the Kimist geek tragedy Apr 2013 #17

I see ...so then and now are the same thing. Thanks for your meaningfull contribution. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #24

I have been wondering whether to put that person on ignore for a while. Apologia for North Korea stevenleser Apr 2013 #57

This is like a RW parody of a left-wing viewpoint cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #21

I was thinking the same thing. Skidmore Apr 2013 #22

Nice excuse. Maybe Bush and Cheney would use the same excuse. L0oniX Apr 2013 #26

No excuse. Skidmore Apr 2013 #30

It certainly looks like nothing changes when Iraq war criminals go unpunished... L0oniX Apr 2013 #33

Nailed it... SidDithers Apr 2013 #36

Yes, way, way, WAAAAY into woo woo territory. stevenleser Apr 2013 #58

the stupid burns bright in this thread dlwickham Apr 2013 #27

It's a shame some people can't discuss anything reasonably. Kinda like teaparty people. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #31

Pot. Kettle. Black. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #37

Great reframe. L0oniX Apr 2013 #40

Where it says the US attacked South Korea in the article. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #41

So now according to some wierd distortion ...I am taking sides? Whatever. L0oniX Apr 2013 #43

You're certainly defending it enthusiastically enough. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #45

LOL ok whatever. L0oniX Apr 2013 #48

Shall we discuss... sarisataka Apr 2013 #34

Not even sure if Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #38

Ah so you read the reference notes huh? Did you even see what I had to say or did you jump... L0oniX Apr 2013 #44

So now I "implied Korea would be better off" ...what ever. You can see whatever you want... L0oniX Apr 2013 #42

When you post a one sided piece sarisataka Apr 2013 #51

Uhm well it seems that the US writes its history as it sees it as well. L0oniX Apr 2013 #54

I find history one of the more transparent disciplines sarisataka Apr 2013 #55

Wait, someone is criticizing the U.S. (and the United Nations) for the Korean War? BlueCheese Apr 2013 #56

Meh. premium Apr 2013 #59

That site is just so full of great information snooper2 Apr 2013 #60

LOL dionysus Apr 2013 #61

The North Korean Army is responsible for that action. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #62

See post #6 and #19 dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #63

Che murdered people for fun. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #64

Got any reputable links to that. dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #65

Sure. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #66

The only definitive version dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #67

200+ killed, with no trials. Like I said, he was a murderer. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #68