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Occulus

(20,599 posts)
43. I grew up in the 80s, kid. Listen to this because I'm only going to say it ONE time.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 11:29 PM
Apr 2013

In the 1980s, before that addled evil fuckschmuck Reagan convinced too many of us that we didn't need a social safety net and that greed was good, a high school graduate could, even with loans, go to college, get an education, graduate, get a GOOD job, buy a house, and start raising a family. This was expected. Not that they would do it, mind you, but that they could.

My father had the sole income in my family, under $60K/yr. On that income, he put both me and my sister through elementary, middle, and high school WHILE my mother stayed home because, get this, she didn't need to work in order to support us. She didn't even have to supplement my father's (modest!) income. One income, at what my father was making as a MIDDLE MANAGER, was enough to put two kids through school (both of us graduating with honors, thank you very much), DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE HOME ITSELF, and get us a start into college. Yes, we both had loans. The payments on these, even on a minimum wage, did not cripple our futures. All my classmates who went to college and got loans experienced the same thing.

In less than ten years following my entry into college, higher education became progressively more and more unaffordable. My mom is in her seventies now. She works only because she wants to, because the house was paid off well over ten years ago. No mortgage, and her house is paid for, free and clear, including the property upon which it sits. Neither I nor my sister- with four kids of her own, living in a trailer park- will ever see the level of security or financial independence our parents had. NOT because we're shiftless layabouts, NOT because we make bad decisions, but because there. Isn't. Enough. Money. Coming. In.

We will NEVER own homes. We can't afford it. We won't ever be able to, even if we work as hard as we can and get as many hours as possible (this assumes an after-graduation job NOT in our degree fields, which happens too often to be anything but a showstopper). Neither I nor my sister will EVER be able to go back to school. The loan payments and debt we would graduate with are simply too crippling; without an absolute placement guarantee following graduation, the math simply does not add up. Minimum-wage work cannot pay off a four year (or longer) college degree, and there is no place in the nation- not one city, village, or town- in which we can work our way through school and pay rent and bills, all at the same time. In fact, there is no city, village, or town in which any American can work a minimum wage job and afford a two-bedroom apartment of any size. Not. One Village. City. Or. Town.

And really, that isn't too goddamned much to ask for, now, is it? To be able to work through school, pay rent and the bills, etc.? Minimum wage work used to be able to do that much, at least. Oh yes, roommates. I'm almost fucking 40. *I* have a roommate, and I'm not even in school. Make that math work, jeanyuss.

THESE. THINGS. ARE. NOT. OUR. FAULT. We both, in our own lifetimes, remember when that situation was not only not the case, but an entire galaxy removed from what we and everyone we knew and grew up with experienced as "America". We remember, clearly and with anger and the white-hot fury of a thousand exploding stars, the fact that when we grew up, a single income could support a family of four, pay for a home, go on vacations, buy Christmas gifts (mountains of them), put the kids into school and still have enough left over for elderly old Ma to live well in her old age. And not a bit of that, not one bit, was on a government handout of any kind.

That isn't possible any more. Stop denying reality. We're fucked as a society, and we didn't do it to ourselves. It was done TO us by the greedy-assed motherfuckers on Wall Street and in the overpaid and vastly underworked administrative offices of our schools and colleges, the predatory nature of our student loan structure, and oh yes, FUCKING REPUBLICAN ASSHOLES who wanted this situation, profited from it, and blame us for the shards of hope littering the floor of our china shop due solely to that goddamned FUCKING golden bull on the sidewalk in New York City that romped its way through our store, shattering our dreams as it went.

Wake the fuck up. You're wrong six ways from Sunday, and refusing to admit it puts YOU at fault, too. My only consolation in all this is that, given the direction things are headed and thanks in large part to your toxic apathy and misdirected blame, as well as those of people just like you, you will suffer the bitter fruits of phantom free-marketeer self-sufficiency more than I will.

Maybe you'll learn a thing or two as you struggle. And you will struggle, more than you ought to have. The pisser of it all is, you're telling the very people who don't want you to face that that they're wrong, placing blame where it does not in any way belong, and outright refusing the potential this country has to offer you if you and those like you would just get up off your dead asses and HELP FUCKING FIX IT.

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A cartoon that isn't funny [View all] Bucky Apr 2013 OP
k&r liberal N proud Apr 2013 #1
yep! . . . . . n/t annabanana Apr 2013 #2
that cartoon says it all, in very clear, simple, easy-to-understand terms. the pukes will probably niyad Apr 2013 #3
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #4
K&R! LittleBlue Apr 2013 #5
Socialist ideals are great and all Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #6
I doubt a Ron Paul supporter would promote spending more money on education n/t arcane1 Apr 2013 #8
Especially since Paul is on record for eliminating the Dept. of Education Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #142
You do know what nit picking is don't you? zeemike Apr 2013 #9
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #16
Kids are just little yous zeemike Apr 2013 #24
Hmm. No, that's not a gigantic problem Occulus Apr 2013 #26
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #32
I grew up in the 80s, kid. Listen to this because I'm only going to say it ONE time. Occulus Apr 2013 #43
EXCELLENT rant! Kali Apr 2013 #64
Well said! Hope that he reads this... Rhiannon12866 Apr 2013 #68
What Occulus said. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #79
Now THAT'S a punch worthy of applause. HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #102
I'm six years ahead of you onlyadream Apr 2013 #107
Awesome rant!! kdmorris Apr 2013 #108
Hey, Me too gaspee Apr 2013 #143
I think we have the same demographic profiles Bucky Apr 2013 #109
Most excellent rant. SomeGuyInEagan Apr 2013 #123
Right beside you. N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2013 #125
Very well said.....thank you for saying it......n/t prairierose Apr 2013 #129
Dear God, Occulus! Rainngirl Apr 2013 #130
Thank you. RoseMead Apr 2013 #133
B - I - N - G - Fucking - O! Yooperman Apr 2013 #139
excellent! noiretextatique Apr 2013 #141
How can you say you "lean socialist" when your 1st post inthread ridicules socialist ideas? Bucky Apr 2013 #111
Really? The whole country's problems is all because of kids wasting their lives away on meaningless Iris Apr 2013 #31
Reality and you have trouble getting along? IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #35
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #38
Does someone pay you to write that drivel? WCLinolVir Apr 2013 #94
Corporations are not a problem? Webster Green Apr 2013 #99
+1 Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #100
I think "paid shill" might be more accurate. nt Doremus Apr 2013 #126
I'm with you! Fuck education! Fuck schools! morningfog Apr 2013 #48
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #59
What meaning? tkmorris Apr 2013 #90
You simply made a stupid statement Bradical79 Apr 2013 #124
To be kind, you actually lost me with your contradictory statements. Are you lost? Wrong board? olegramps Apr 2013 #127
I'm sorry, but............ MyOwnPeace Apr 2013 #12
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #18
You are letting your mask slip. morningfog Apr 2013 #49
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #73
I'm offended by the stupidity of people like you Zoeisright Apr 2013 #52
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #72
No, troll, what we hate is greedy, self-entitled assholes TAKING more than they actually earned. Occulus Apr 2013 #76
Speaking of felonies and theft . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #119
You are getting a rough welcome here zeemike Apr 2013 #57
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #70
We are spending more money on prisons BECAUSE WE ARE PRIVATIZING THEM. Occulus Apr 2013 #58
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Did you even READ what I wrote here? Occulus Apr 2013 #67
I say this with all due respect, maybe a visit to your doctor might be in order. WCLinolVir Apr 2013 #96
A Ron Paul supporter? Ruby the Liberal Apr 2013 #13
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #20
The Socialist Ideal puts ownership of business in the hands of the people, not corporations Martin Eden Apr 2013 #17
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Are you a high school student? cyberswede Apr 2013 #36
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I wish you well in college. cyberswede Apr 2013 #39
Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #40
Ah. That explains so much. morningfog Apr 2013 #50
Then I commend you for diving right in and joining in the discussion Dragonfli Apr 2013 #74
Very well said and that's my hope, too Rhiannon12866 Apr 2013 #77
It is something I felt deeply, and meant sincerely, thanks Dragonfli Apr 2013 #91
Thank you so much... Rhiannon12866 Apr 2013 #98
Agree. Hoping he/she reads this again and again October Apr 2013 #104
You might want to go read the ToS you agreed to when you joined us tkmorris Apr 2013 #92
Come on man, he is obviously telling the truth about his age Dragonfli Apr 2013 #97
I'm not suggesting we spend another $10 billion on education. Martin Eden Apr 2013 #51
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #60
I hope, for your sake, that you go to a nice school Nevernose Apr 2013 #78
Parents wouldn't have to buy supplies for the rest of the class for the year, for one thing Occulus Apr 2013 #81
I'm a teacher. I don't think you know very many. Bucky Apr 2013 #113
You talk about socialist ideals and imply libertarians are behind expressing them? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #21
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #22
You have set a stellar JackInGreen Apr 2013 #25
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Sorry I AM an asshole, I should fix that someday. I like to state exactly what I think Dragonfli Apr 2013 #42
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #45
Oh no, not at all! Feel free to judge me all you want, many do and find me a complete asshole. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #56
I think you have to have a plausible argument, Starkiller... MrMickeysMom Apr 2013 #69
Message auto-removed Starkiller228 Apr 2013 #75
You made a very good point there Dragonfli Apr 2013 #83
When those parents get home at 3AM from their second job Occulus Apr 2013 #85
Youse misspelled oldyurp. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #27
And derp. Occulus Apr 2013 #29
Enoy your brief visit here pscot Apr 2013 #30
Enjoy your stay here. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #33
Truth hurts, huh? Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #80
Blah, blah, what did you say? Remove the south?? WCLinolVir Apr 2013 #89
It was a bet on how many members could be insulted in one post. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #105
Ok you're still here from what I see and you're still 16 or 17 or 18 years old from what you say steve2470 Apr 2013 #116
So annoying trumps the truth. marble falls Apr 2013 #117
Go play with your gun. nt valerief Apr 2013 #121
Nope. not funny at all. zeemike Apr 2013 #7
Why? Ideology has triumphed over reason and common sense. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #10
Thank you. Bucky Apr 2013 #114
Who needs an education mindwalker_i Apr 2013 #11
...and video games. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #34
At least with video games, you're interacting with it mindwalker_i Apr 2013 #41
Excellent. (nt) DirkGently Apr 2013 #14
Bill Clinton said often during his 1992 Presidential campaign that it is cheaper TheDebbieDee Apr 2013 #15
Yes, but when you send a person to college for 4-6 years, CrispyQ Apr 2013 #44
Plutocracy always trumps democracy. Rex Apr 2013 #23
K&R!!!!! burrowowl Apr 2013 #46
And it's happening under Democrats as well as Republicans. woo me with science Apr 2013 #47
The population of Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark combined are ~25.5 million snooper2 Apr 2013 #53
Direct question: 10% of the annual budget of the Department of Defense = ? Occulus Apr 2013 #86
Yes we can afford single payer.. snooper2 Apr 2013 #87
Lockheed may well have built a working IEC device capable of generating net power Occulus Apr 2013 #88
There is no mechanism that can convert energy at greater than 100% efficiency. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #93
I didn't say that. Occulus Apr 2013 #95
Ah, alright now I see what you meant. Apologies. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #101
New laws or just old ones? Rex Apr 2013 #132
So we should enjoy economies of scale and have lower per capita costs. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #106
Ha! Bucky Apr 2013 #115
Apparently the tipping point is 15 degrees West or something. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #136
So? Are you implying both have the same amount of resources to work with or something? (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2013 #135
Why does having more people make it harder for us to educate people? tinrobot Apr 2013 #137
k&r Liberal_in_LA Apr 2013 #54
So their rich don't own their politicians? treestar Apr 2013 #55
Scandinavia: When You REALLY Need to Feel Smug. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #61
r vs. K galileoreloaded Apr 2013 #63
"America is the first country to have gone from barbarism to decadence without the usual intervening Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #65
It's Spring Break this week! Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #66
Nothing like a family gathering to bring out the reason we'll never be rid of idiots. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #71
Total agreement Mr.Pain Apr 2013 #82
thanks ... saving this one for facebook Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #84
!!! MiddleFingerMom Apr 2013 #103
we as a nation suffer from glutenous stupidity. nt Javaman Apr 2013 #110
Correct, no punchline... 99Forever Apr 2013 #112
There is a punchline Bucky malaise Apr 2013 #118
Oh, there's a punchline, well, a punch. We keep getting it in the face from our valerief Apr 2013 #120
Excellent OP. Thank you Bucky. n/t PotatoChip Apr 2013 #122
There is only one solution, just one to our present disaster, elect Democrats. olegramps Apr 2013 #128
We waited too long felix_numinous Apr 2013 #131
rec #314! napoleon_in_rags Apr 2013 #134
Love the cartoon. kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #138
K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #140
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