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caseymoz

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81. Not conjecture, that was sarcasm.

Tue Apr 2, 2013, 01:52 AM

Apr 2013

You know, ?

But I try to be factual before I launch into it. Here's where I got the rest of that shit, or at least checked it:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=109552

I swear though, within my extremely Catholic family of origin, and after going to a Catholic School, a Catholic High School, and a Catholic University, that is exactly how I've seen Catholics act about the Pope. For instance, how many Catholics you think would know how many times Popes have spoken ex cathedra? I bet percent who know are somewhere in the single digits.

And I bet the percent that know and agree with you, are something in the fractional digits.

It's a matter of the ideals not quite meeting the reality, and the fact that they never can. Not because people are sinful or bad per se, but because-- for one thing-- they'd need a God for it to happen. Sorry, there's no God in this universe.

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Okay, sit back and I will explain Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #25

Thanks for the Education - Really. dballance Mar 2013 #27

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Then call it out on one like that, Drahthaardogs Apr 2013 #71

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