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sabrina 1

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17. Um, did I mention Obama somewhere? During all the years I was fighting with
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:00 AM
Apr 2013

Republicans over all of these issues, did I do it because I was clairvoyant and knew one day I could use my opposition to Bush/Republican policies to 'blame' a future Democratic president for something?

Eg, I remember arguing for weeks with Republicans over Monsanto, that was back in about 2003. I had not yet even heard of Obama. Republicans were telling me that I needed to understand how Monsanto was 'feeding the world', 'preventing starvation' and that Liberals like me were just saying all those things because 'you hate Bush'.

Now, I'm saying the same things and people are telling me 'you just want to blame Obama'.

Can you unravel all of this for me please because I am very, very confused. I swear, I am not clairvoyant, I had no idea that one day Democrats would be be telling me the same things Republicans were telling me back then. I genuinely believed that Monsanto was an evil corporation and I was not, as Republicans accused me of, just saying what I was saying to 'blame Bush for something'.

Should we just be quiet maybe? Even when a Republican is in the WH so that we don't risk a future where we could be accused of just 'hating' Democrats for opposing policies supported by Republicans?

Eg, the Keystone Pipeline. I really, really do believe it is a bad idea for the country. But what if it is approved? Would that mean I just think so because a Dem happens to be president at the time, should that happen, and I hope it won't?



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If it's ProSense Apr 2013 #1
Just curious G_j Apr 2013 #2
Do you doubt her? UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #6
Yeah, I responded ProSense Apr 2013 #10
All that woo woo and not the actual verbage of the bill? Sheepshank Apr 2013 #51
see post 48 for the language of section 735 onenote Apr 2013 #67
This is what I have learned. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #7
Most excellent post, sabrina! City Lights Apr 2013 #8
What ProSense Apr 2013 #11
Um, did I mention Obama somewhere? During all the years I was fighting with sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #17
No, I did ProSense Apr 2013 #19
Yes, you did. Just like I never mentioned Bush to Republicans since issues for me sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #23
"patently absurd and utterly silly" are not very strong arguments. Sounds more like opinion. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #63
5 Orwells! ***** each word drips tears of love. nice work green for victory Apr 2013 #15
I learned that slaughtering wolves is perfectly acceptable. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #16
Yes, my list was not complete, but I have learned many things over the past sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #25
+1 nt Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #32
+ 1000! Perhaps we owe them an apology for being so wrong all the time? nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #56
+10000000 woo me with science Apr 2013 #72
+1 SixString Apr 2013 #83
^^^+1000^^^This^^^ progressoid Apr 2013 #99
What ProSense Apr 2013 #9
What do you think about Monsanto? Is it a great, life-saving Corporation sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #12
Well, ProSense Apr 2013 #14
Do you think it's absurd that Obama has Monsanto executives in his Administration? UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #20
Hey, ProSense Apr 2013 #21
If I was McCarthy that would be a false accusation. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #22
Should we remain silent then on all issues of importance, should we not ask sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #29
Oh look ProSense Apr 2013 #38
I see questions, I do not see rude. When you constantly sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #43
Yeah, ProSense Apr 2013 #45
"unrrelated topics" --are you serious? Bonobo Apr 2013 #69
Actually, ProSense Apr 2013 #71
Non-sequitor. nt Bonobo Apr 2013 #74
Let's compare arguments. One side says that Pres Obama seems too friendly to Monsanto and rhett o rick Apr 2013 #93
+1 I find that summarizing the arguments woo me with science Apr 2013 #107
Oh Gawd...the silenced martyr syndrome striking yet again n/t Sheepshank Apr 2013 #53
Oh Gawd! The old familiar right wing talking points against Liberals make their sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #68
Actaully I'm durecting the martyr thing at one person only..... Sheepshank Apr 2013 #70
Martyrs, all over the place, on the Left! And when challenged, no 'it's just you'! sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #75
reverse psych...you've been doing it a lot in the last few posts. It's obvious and a fail n/t Sheepshank Apr 2013 #84
When something is a 'fail' shouldn't you just ignore it because if you're right sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #89
y-e-a-h right Sheepshank Apr 2013 #92
I'm actually conducting an experiment. Would you like to know the results? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #94
This should be good....go for it Sheepshank Apr 2013 #103
Why dont you direct your comments towards issues instead of trying to ridicule posters? rhett o rick Apr 2013 #109
Lol, with so many comments, not one was about sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #110
I see signs of desperation. Personal attacks in lieu of substance. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #112
Actually that is exactly what I have been trying to get. Sheepshank Apr 2013 #113
I must have missed it. So tell us do you favor Monsanto's GMO program? rhett o rick Apr 2013 #114
already addressed in previous posts Sheepshank Apr 2013 #115
You called her a martyr and then call her responses "attacks". rhett o rick Apr 2013 #116
you have no clue what you are talking about...you have no background on any of this Sheepshank Apr 2013 #119
I have read your posts and wonder why you are in this thread? Is your intent to discuss rhett o rick Apr 2013 #121
your intent?...you have made several posts unrelated ot the OP as well. Sheepshank Apr 2013 #122
I have stated clearly in this thread that I dont like Monsanto's GMO. And I dont like Monsanto rhett o rick Apr 2013 #123
The only connection w the the OP G_j Apr 2013 #24
When exactly ProSense Apr 2013 #30
Did he not receive the over one quarter of a million petition asking that he sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #37
What exactly ProSense Apr 2013 #42
I gave you some facts about the rider. You have chosen to respond with more sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #49
apologies.. G_j Apr 2013 #39
Funny how you managed to compare G_j Apr 2013 #27
Hey, ProSense Apr 2013 #31
The old Republican pretending to be a liberal accusation. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #36
That shoe does not ever fit any Progressive I have ever known. McCarthy? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #40
Oh please. Stop with the self-righteous drivel. n/t ProSense Apr 2013 #73
My comment could only be considered 'self-righteous' in the derogatory sense sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #80
Take it however you choose ProSense Apr 2013 #88
I know who I am G_j Apr 2013 #41
I'll take that as a 'yes' n/t whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #100
Just curious ProSense Apr 2013 #91
Oh look. Prosense Logic! ........ Prosense, Newspeak, Doubleplusgood! woo me with science Apr 2013 #28
OMG ProSense Apr 2013 #33
How long does the Monsanto Protection Act last? no_hypocrisy Apr 2013 #3
6 months G_j Apr 2013 #4
We'll need that time to get ready with an alternative bill. no_hypocrisy Apr 2013 #13
We were prepared this time. A petition signed by over a quarter of a million sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #35
Why do you think this is a "temporary" provision? onenote Apr 2013 #102
You have a point. Frankly I don't believe it is temporary anyhow. But I did sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #105
Its temporary not because the legislation expires onenote Apr 2013 #106
Actually, I don't see anything that would cause the provision to expire in six months onenote Apr 2013 #65
It is temporary... TM99 Apr 2013 #26
I find 2 and 3 to be the worst and the most clear example of what Autumn Apr 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Apr 2013 #18
knr Coyotl Apr 2013 #34
Had enough yet, America? woo me with science Apr 2013 #44
This is more "terrifying" ProSense Apr 2013 #46
Bullshit. DeSwiss Apr 2013 #47
What an interesting concept! woo me with science Apr 2013 #50
What's even more interesting..... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #54
Imagine that. It's all doubleplusgood, and legal! woo me with science Apr 2013 #59
Is your nick intended to be ironic? Seriously. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #61
Welcome, Corporate Defense Team! woo me with science Apr 2013 #62
So, all the lack of scientific understanding behind this hysteria doesn't bother you? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #79
You need to make up your mind. woo me with science Apr 2013 #85
I have no comment on the legislation, but you continue to ignore my question: Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #96
Except Congress can limit the jurisdiction of the courts. onenote Apr 2013 #55
... woo me with science Apr 2013 #57
"Every day, every day, we sink deeper into the nightmare of a corporate-controlled State." Occulus Apr 2013 #76
The "monsanto" provision is bad legislation,but the article in the OP is riddled with errors onenote Apr 2013 #48
Move to Peru. They've banned ALL GMO's. Btw. Some GMO foods actually save many who would starve due judesedit Apr 2013 #52
Holy shit! Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #60
Thumbs up to ProSense for standing against the tide. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #58
"citing solid science" ROFL! woo me with science Apr 2013 #64
And the other one, 'why won't they label their products'? You would think they sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #77
So much noise. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #81
No answer? woo me with science Apr 2013 #87
I wasn't ProSense Apr 2013 #66
I have never defended Monsanto. Ever. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #82
ROFL! woo me with science Apr 2013 #86
Lol, I know, I was laughing too! sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #90
Please feel free to accept the challenge: quote me where I defended Monsanto. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #97
Care to quote me defending Monsanto? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #95
Are you going to quote where I defended Monsanto? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #104
Yeah Bobbie Jo Apr 2013 #118
"solid science" LMFAO n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #117
Another example of Newest Reality Apr 2013 #78
Are somewhat getting mired in the details and the blame game? Babel_17 Apr 2013 #98
This is a complete contradiction to the nutrition program the FLOTUS Isoldeblue Apr 2013 #101
"This is a complete contradiction to the nutrition program the FLOTUS jazzimov Apr 2013 #108
Poutrage ... another made up word people think is 'cool'. Anyhow, tell it to Sen. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #111
"one provision" -- with large effects. dumb comment. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #120
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