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Honeycombe8

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32. Some Catholics are pro-choice, but some are not. The position of the Church...
Thu Feb 2, 2012, 10:13 PM
Feb 2012

is that it does not. The bill says they have to offer ALL forms of birth control, even the morning after pill (which is an abortion pill). All forms of bc are against the Church's beliefs, but some in particular are particularly egregious, to them. Notwithstanding the positions of some of its members, like your family.

The point is whether any religion has to sell bc, when its against the beliefs of that religion. It has been exempted from having to do that so far. (It is the Catholic Church and not its members that dictate the beliefs of the Church...we have seen this in refusing to allow female priests, male priests to marry, birth control except for refraining while fertile, etc., etc.)

The OP in particular is questioning whether it was a good move NOW to do this, during a political election year, when the election is going to be tight, and Catholics are swing votes.

I also question whether the timing is good on this one. I also think it was a bad decision. I would tend to think better of it, if it required the selling of the types of bc that aren't abortion. That would be an acceptable compromise, I think, that would accomplish the goal of making bc more accessible, while still giving some respect to the Church's position. This may prompt the Church to cease providing insurance at all.

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Someone who expected them to follow the law? Fumesucker Feb 2012 #1
You know, if it was an "unacceptable" religion getting money from the govt ... zbdent Feb 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #2
Well that makes way to much sense. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #8
+1 mmonk Feb 2012 #35
You mean like a HOSPITAL?! FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #3
If they want to be in the business of health care, they need to provide the best care available. HuckleB Feb 2012 #4
I would Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #5
I have a feeling countingbluecars Feb 2012 #6
As a catholic I would want it covered and as a catholic I wouldn't go to their hospital to have my southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #9
Which other regulations and laws should religious institutions be allowed to opt out of? Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #10
I would since we had a catholic hospital imposed on us with no tsuki Feb 2012 #11
"Pick a fight" MNBrewer Feb 2012 #12
Would you want to be a Rape Victim with only a Catholic Hospital in town? HockeyMom Feb 2012 #13
Because they coddle sickos who rape kids? Odin2005 Feb 2012 #14
The church had a simple choice surfdog Feb 2012 #37
Because 98% of Catholic women have used some form of "banned" birth control. PA Democrat Feb 2012 #15
No one expects a Catholic institution to hand out birth control pills Warpy Feb 2012 #16
I don't think it's picking a fight SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #17
I think you are right on the mark. CBHagman Feb 2012 #19
Because WOMENS RIGHTS should be protected at 'all times', this is an INSURANCE issue ... Tx4obama Feb 2012 #18
Catholic institutions are being forced to purchase birth control SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #20
When you are an 'employer' you should have to play by the same rules as everyone else. Tx4obama Feb 2012 #21
We'll just agree to disagree SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #22
If that were the case then ... Tx4obama Feb 2012 #23
I believe this rule only applies to entities that accept federal funds dflprincess Feb 2012 #25
No SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #26
No, from what I read in the Star Tribune, I had it right. dflprincess Feb 2012 #29
No mention of a federal funds issue SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #31
Then the Catholic Church shouldn't accept government money (Medicare, etc.) SharonAnn Feb 2012 #27
I'm still a little sore about the Spanish Inquisition DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #24
I was raised Catholic- my mom and grandparents were good Italian Catholics... w8liftinglady Feb 2012 #28
Some Catholics are pro-choice, but some are not. The position of the Church... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #32
I think the church will stop offering insurance SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #33
I gotta agree with you on that one, Gus. Bad move, IMO. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #30
They're still talking about this on Morning Joe. It's a fight POTUS cant win imo GusFring Feb 2012 #34
Rachel Maddow talked about it on the far more widely-viewed "Today Show" this morning. GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #40
Should Catholic institutions be able to fire gay people too? sufrommich Feb 2012 #36
They also don't have the right to force their beliefs on non-believers. GoCubsGo Feb 2012 #39
This law does not force using birth control on anyone. PeaceNikki Feb 2012 #38
Because those assholes need to learn to shut their fucking mouths AngryAmish Feb 2012 #41
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