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oldandhappy

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70. yep. Think about this when I see a white Jesus.

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Wed Apr 3, 2013, 08:42 AM

Apr 2013

Interesting pic in number one comment. Anyway, thank you for the article.

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Regarding the "History" Channel's "The Bible" - Jesus was not a white dude [View all] arely staircase Apr 2013 OP

True. Most scholars of that era think he looked more like this: Fawke Em Apr 2013 #1

and speaking of his class, profession and location arely staircase Apr 2013 #5

That's not bad. GiveMeFreedom Apr 2013 #34

And it's been said he would have been 5' to 5'2" tall Greybnk48 Apr 2013 #85

Jesus is the god of white supremacy. Solomon Apr 2013 #94

I thought guns were? Number23 Apr 2013 #104

Couldn't the artist have come up with a better facial expression? Hekate Apr 2013 #110

Actual photo of Jesus on the sea of Galilee: undeterred Apr 2013 #130

Herod, you're gonna need a bigger boat. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #134

Most BIBLE Scholars. Most independent historians think he looked like this: Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #132

Thanks Warren. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #136

Tuco! Angelonthesidelines Apr 2013 #140

They'd rather not think of him as a European Jew, I would think. Some might recall brewens Apr 2013 #2

The son of god can appear as he pleases. immoderate Apr 2013 #3

then why wouldn't he appear as those he is surrounded by? liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #6

and arely staircase Apr 2013 #8

Being a deity, it's how he appears TO those who is surrounded by. immoderate Apr 2013 #12

so there is a Chinese Christ as well then, and a Dutch Christ, and an African Christ. If that is the liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #17

Mortal artists have htheir limitations, but as is fitting... immoderate Apr 2013 #19

No I still think it has to do with how people want to see him because a white face, liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #20

That works too. immoderate Apr 2013 #26

Has absolutely nothing to do with "beauty" Number23 Apr 2013 #57

Yes Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #80

wow.... RitchieRich Apr 2013 #84

Well, the correct plural form SidneyR Apr 2013 #87

so what then? RitchieRich Apr 2013 #92

A - even tho it's ugly Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #96

I'm gonna go with ut oh Apr 2013 #143

Jesi /nt demwing Apr 2013 #101

And the ever-popular "Tortilla Jesus" Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #89

I wish we could see more of those kinds of pictures. America is no longer a colony fresh off the liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #95

You have not noticed that Jesus is depicted differently in different cultures? Hekate Apr 2013 #111

America is very diverse. We should be seeing different pictures of him right here in the US. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #114

Well, they are everywhere in Latino communities Hekate Apr 2013 #117

I had to see it to believe it AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #118

And so He has been depicted that way LibertyLover Apr 2013 #122

You should see him in China... backscatter712 Apr 2013 #127

Isaiah 53:2 atreides1 Apr 2013 #79

But did you see the African Samson? Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #4

i haven't watched any of it, mainly because I stopped watching the "History" Channel some years ago arely staircase Apr 2013 #7

they are currently airing "The Vikings" which is amazingly detailed in production & fairly accurate KittyWampus Apr 2013 #91

yes they live mostly in Ethiopia..... NavyDavy Apr 2013 #138

Hmm, who knew? Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #139

.. Malone Apr 2013 #9

the hair arely staircase Apr 2013 #10

He might have been half European if it's true that Mary was raped by a Roman Cleita Apr 2013 #11

sure you aren't thinking of the Life of Brian? arely staircase Apr 2013 #13

That's where Life of Brian got the idea. Cleita Apr 2013 #50

did not know that arely staircase Apr 2013 #52

It's probably not true, but something like that could explain Cleita Apr 2013 #54

yeah, or joseph knocked her up, which also would have brought a stoning arely staircase Apr 2013 #58

If it were Joseph and he acknowledged it was him, there would have been no stoning Cleita Apr 2013 #98

What if Joseph just didn't know much about sex? raging moderate Apr 2013 #108

What if none if it is true? Cleita Apr 2013 #109

Not quite true. caseymoz Apr 2013 #119

I'm not saying it's true. It's just something that's out there to think about. Cleita Apr 2013 #121

I miscommunicated. caseymoz Apr 2013 #125

Tall, dark, gaunt raging moderate Apr 2013 #14

i don't know of any physical description of him arely staircase Apr 2013 #22

There is some description in Josephus, but most agree it is a later fake add on. There is a real dimbear Apr 2013 #65

what earliest pictures? From what year? snooper2 Apr 2013 #73

I wonder why the show is on... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #15

the bible, though not a work of history, is a subject of great historical import arely staircase Apr 2013 #55

good points... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #112

What happened to the Discovery Channel and TLC (The LEARNING Channel) is even worse... Moostache Apr 2013 #106

Don't get me started on TLC... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #113

Are we really all that intelligent though? Jamastiene Apr 2013 #142

as z. budapest said, "white european christians worship a book that has no white european niyad Apr 2013 #16

And Adam and Eve couldn't have had names because there wasn't even an alphabet yet. Gregorian Apr 2013 #18

for some reason that makes me think of this arely staircase Apr 2013 #24

Haha. Gregorian Apr 2013 #93

"Middle Eastern Jew" is sort of redundant frazzled Apr 2013 #21

Middle Eastern Jew is not redundant now, the time in which the audience of Salon.com lives arely staircase Apr 2013 #23

Um, they used the term to describe what Jesus would have looked like frazzled Apr 2013 #27

middle Eastern jew means not Ashkenazim (european jews) arely staircase Apr 2013 #30

Middle Eastern Jews are called Mizrahi. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #44

did i misuse the term? arely staircase Apr 2013 #45

No, you are correct. I was just adding some more info. Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #47

cool, thanks arely staircase Apr 2013 #49

Yes, being Ashkenazi myself, I am aware ... frazzled Apr 2013 #72

Actually, many Jews were African. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #141

(a) you assumed incorrectly that there is a scholarly consensus.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #25

i didn't write the article arely staircase Apr 2013 #28

yeah, because a majority of biblical scholars are believers.. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #31

really? arely staircase Apr 2013 #33

Exactly. Expecting "Bible Scholars" to discount the premise that constitutes most of the Bible... Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #135

just because not every historian believes there was a Jesus does not mean there isn't a consensus. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #29

no there is much more vigorous debate about the historicity of jesus than that. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #32

"These views are so extreme and so unconvincing to 99.99 percent of the real experts arely staircase Apr 2013 #36

really quoting bart ehrman at me? Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #38

no, the ad hominem always loses arely staircase Apr 2013 #39

name at least three published PhDs in history who thinks Jesus did not exist arely staircase Apr 2013 #40

Are you saying that Jewish and Israeli people aren't "white"? Most of them would disagree. n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #35

Middle Easterners, semetic or otherwise, are certainly distingishable enough from europeans to get arely staircase Apr 2013 #37

So are Greeks, southern Italians and French, and anyone else with dark hair and olive skin. pnwmom Apr 2013 #41

and why do these greeks get profiled? arely staircase Apr 2013 #42

I just don't get your point. pnwmom Apr 2013 #60

the white/not-white distinction is made by the author arely staircase Apr 2013 #62

The historic Jesus was not defacto7 Apr 2013 #43

criticism of the "history" channel has to be posted under religion? arely staircase Apr 2013 #46

OK.... defacto7 Apr 2013 #48

i regret that it has somewhat gone off course arely staircase Apr 2013 #51

Thanks for clarification defacto7 Apr 2013 #53

i know what you mean arely staircase Apr 2013 #56

at the very least DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #59

He probably didnt speak English either. jambo101 Apr 2013 #61

fancy Shakespeare english eom arely staircase Apr 2013 #63

I suppose..... MFM008 Apr 2013 #64

Yeah, I never understood why everyone pictures Jesus as a white dude Victor_c3 Apr 2013 #66

The bigger challenge quaker bill Apr 2013 #67

Shocker. Not. nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #68

Wait a minute--you say Jesus was not a surfer?! panader0 Apr 2013 #69

It's all about balance... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #81

yep. Think about this when I see a white Jesus. oldandhappy Apr 2013 #70

Did a historical Jesus exist? warrior1 Apr 2013 #71

Jesus was not white The CCC Apr 2013 #74

I was born and raised kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #75

what a great story, for all kinds of reasons renate Apr 2013 #90

Thanks, Renate kurtzapril4 Apr 2013 #120

I wonder cvoogt Apr 2013 #76

But Santa Claus is still white right? moobu2 Apr 2013 #77

Santa Claus is based on St Nicholas, who was Greek LeftishBrit Apr 2013 #115

Jesus was not DavidDvorkin Apr 2013 #78

The Nazis not only claimed Jesus was Aryan but that he wasn't even a Jew.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #82

The media misrepresents the Romans and Greeks as well bigbrother05 Apr 2013 #83

I think he was probably a "Grey" cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #86

"Christ didn't come to Earth to give us the willies..." Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #88

Some strange elements in this piece. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #97

I am guessing he didn't look like Brad Pitt either. yellowcanine Apr 2013 #99

If Jesus were in George Zimmerman's neighborhood after dark . . . OldRedneck Apr 2013 #100

Every Real Amurkan Krischin knows Wolf Frankula Apr 2013 #102

"Historical?" tout_le_monde Apr 2013 #103

But Mary still became magically impregnated right? LOL just1voice Apr 2013 #105

No foolin', Jesus Definately wasn't a white dude.. DeeBunker Apr 2013 #107

Hate to rain more skepticism on this, caseymoz Apr 2013 #116

Considering the complete lack of extra-biblical contemporary evidence, it's more like 95% cleanhippie Apr 2013 #123

I wouldn't go that far. caseymoz Apr 2013 #124

Ok, 94% cleanhippie Apr 2013 #126

I'm still waiting for Cult of Dusty to do the rest of History of the Bible. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #128

I just wanted to post this video d_r Apr 2013 #129

Yes He WAS, dammit! PolitFreak Apr 2013 #131

Sorry, but "Jesus" as an actual, historical entity, quite possibly didn't exist at all. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #133

There are no white dudes in the bible. Coyotl Apr 2013 #137

With the exception sulphurdunn Apr 2013 #144

Not that it matters, sulphurdunn Apr 2013 #145