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In reply to the discussion: Will Obama's Nobel Peace Prize be revoked? [View all]OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)71. Obama was trying to keep troops in Iraq past the deadline.
The Obama administration was demanding immunity for US troops. However, due to the release of a WikiLeaks cable (Thank you, Bradley Manning and Julian Assange!) that detailed the execution of an entire family by multinational forces and the US air strike that destroyed the evidence, the Iraqis refused to give up their rights.
WikiLeaks disclosure reopens Iraqi inquiry into massacre of family
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/02/wikileaks-iraq-massacre-inquiry/print
A diplomatic cable released this week by WikiLeaks revealed that a United Nations official, Philip Alston, told the US in 2006 he had received information that all the residents of the house had been shot in the head. His intervention was not made public at the time.
The letter has inflamed opinion in Iraq at a sensitive time in US-Iraq relations, amid difficult negotiations over retention of US bases in Iraq after the scheduled departure of US troops in December.
Iraqi officials said the new information was sufficient cause to deny the Americans any bases and demand all troops leave.
~snip~
As part of the negotiations over keeping US troops in Iraq, Washington is demanding immunity for all US military personnel. But Maliki's spokesman, Ali al-Moussawi, said: "We will not give up the rights of the Iraqi people, and this subject will be followed."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/02/wikileaks-iraq-massacre-inquiry/print
A diplomatic cable released this week by WikiLeaks revealed that a United Nations official, Philip Alston, told the US in 2006 he had received information that all the residents of the house had been shot in the head. His intervention was not made public at the time.
The letter has inflamed opinion in Iraq at a sensitive time in US-Iraq relations, amid difficult negotiations over retention of US bases in Iraq after the scheduled departure of US troops in December.
Iraqi officials said the new information was sufficient cause to deny the Americans any bases and demand all troops leave.
~snip~
As part of the negotiations over keeping US troops in Iraq, Washington is demanding immunity for all US military personnel. But Maliki's spokesman, Ali al-Moussawi, said: "We will not give up the rights of the Iraqi people, and this subject will be followed."
WikiLeaks: Iraqi children in U.S. raid shot in head, U.N. says
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/08/31/122789/wikileaks-iraqi-children-in-us.html#storylink=cpy
The cable closely tracks what neighbors told reporters for Knight Ridder at the time. (McClatchy purchased Knight Ridder in spring 2006.) Those neighbors said the U.S. troops had approached the house at 2:30 a.m. and a firefight ensued. In addition to exchanging gunfire with someone in the house, the American troops were supported by helicopter gunships, which fired on the house.
The cable also backs the original report from the Joint Coordination Center, which said U.S. forces entered the house while it was still standing. That first report noted: "The American forces gathered the family members in one room and executed 11 persons, including five children, four women and two men. Then they bombed the house, burned three vehicles and killed their animals."
The report was signed by Col. Fadhil Muhammed Khalaf, who was described in the document as the assistant chief of the Joint Coordination Center.
The cable also backs up the claims of the doctor who performed the autopsies, who told Knight Ridder "that all the victims had bullet shots in the head and all bodies were handcuffed."
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/08/31/122789/wikileaks-iraqi-children-in-us.html#storylink=cpy
The cable closely tracks what neighbors told reporters for Knight Ridder at the time. (McClatchy purchased Knight Ridder in spring 2006.) Those neighbors said the U.S. troops had approached the house at 2:30 a.m. and a firefight ensued. In addition to exchanging gunfire with someone in the house, the American troops were supported by helicopter gunships, which fired on the house.
The cable also backs the original report from the Joint Coordination Center, which said U.S. forces entered the house while it was still standing. That first report noted: "The American forces gathered the family members in one room and executed 11 persons, including five children, four women and two men. Then they bombed the house, burned three vehicles and killed their animals."
The report was signed by Col. Fadhil Muhammed Khalaf, who was described in the document as the assistant chief of the Joint Coordination Center.
The cable also backs up the claims of the doctor who performed the autopsies, who told Knight Ridder "that all the victims had bullet shots in the head and all bodies were handcuffed."
1. Mission received a communication from Philip Alston,
Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial, Summary or Arbitrary
Executions, regarding a raid conducted by Multinational
Forces on March 15, 2006 at the house of Faiz Harrat Al-
Majma'ee in Iraq. This communication has been sent via e-
mail to IO/RHS. This communication is number 8 on the
Geneva 2006 Communications Log.
http://wikileaks.org/cable/2006/04/06GENEVA763.html#
I have received various reports indicating that at least 10
persons, namely Mr. Faiz Hratt Khalaf, (aged 28), his wife
Sumay'ya Abdul Razzaq Khuther (aged 24), their three
children Hawra'a (aged 5) Aisha ( aged 3) and Husam (5
months old), Faiz's mother Ms. Turkiya Majeed Ali (aged 74),
Faiz's sister (name unknown), Faiz's nieces Asma'a Yousif
Ma'arouf (aged 5 years old), and Usama Yousif Ma'arouf (aged
3 years), and a visiting relative Ms. Iqtisad Hameed Mehdi
(aged 23) were killed during the raid.
According to the information received, American troops
approached Mr. Faiz's home in the early hours of 15 March
¶2006. It would appear that when the MNF approached the
house, shots were fired from it and a confrontation ensued
for some 25 minutes. The MNF troops entered the house,
handcuffed all residents and executed all of them. After the
initial MNF intervention, a US air raid ensued that
destroyed the house.
Iraqi TV stations broadcast from the scene and showed bodies
of the victims (i.e. five children and four women) in the
morgue of Tikrit. Autopsies carries out at the Tikrit
Hospital's morgue revealed that all corpses were shot in the
head and handcuffed.
I am aware that the MNF confirmed that an air raid took
place that day in Balad and that it caused an unconfirmed
number of casualties. The US military attacked the house to
capture members of Mr. Faiz Harrat Al-Majma'ee's family on
the basis that they were allegedly involved in the killing
of two MNF soldiers who were killed between 6 to 11 March
2006 in the Al Haweeja area. The US military was further
reported in the media as stating that MNF troops attacked
the house in question to capture "a foreign fighter
facilitator for the Al Qaeda in Iraq network". Other reports
indicate that over the past five months, there have been a
significant number of lethal incidents in which the MNF is
alleged to have used excessive force to respond to perceived
threats either at checkpoints or by using air bombing in
civilian areas.
Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial, Summary or Arbitrary
Executions, regarding a raid conducted by Multinational
Forces on March 15, 2006 at the house of Faiz Harrat Al-
Majma'ee in Iraq. This communication has been sent via e-
mail to IO/RHS. This communication is number 8 on the
Geneva 2006 Communications Log.
http://wikileaks.org/cable/2006/04/06GENEVA763.html#
I have received various reports indicating that at least 10
persons, namely Mr. Faiz Hratt Khalaf, (aged 28), his wife
Sumay'ya Abdul Razzaq Khuther (aged 24), their three
children Hawra'a (aged 5) Aisha ( aged 3) and Husam (5
months old), Faiz's mother Ms. Turkiya Majeed Ali (aged 74),
Faiz's sister (name unknown), Faiz's nieces Asma'a Yousif
Ma'arouf (aged 5 years old), and Usama Yousif Ma'arouf (aged
3 years), and a visiting relative Ms. Iqtisad Hameed Mehdi
(aged 23) were killed during the raid.
According to the information received, American troops
approached Mr. Faiz's home in the early hours of 15 March
¶2006. It would appear that when the MNF approached the
house, shots were fired from it and a confrontation ensued
for some 25 minutes. The MNF troops entered the house,
handcuffed all residents and executed all of them. After the
initial MNF intervention, a US air raid ensued that
destroyed the house.
Iraqi TV stations broadcast from the scene and showed bodies
of the victims (i.e. five children and four women) in the
morgue of Tikrit. Autopsies carries out at the Tikrit
Hospital's morgue revealed that all corpses were shot in the
head and handcuffed.
I am aware that the MNF confirmed that an air raid took
place that day in Balad and that it caused an unconfirmed
number of casualties. The US military attacked the house to
capture members of Mr. Faiz Harrat Al-Majma'ee's family on
the basis that they were allegedly involved in the killing
of two MNF soldiers who were killed between 6 to 11 March
2006 in the Al Haweeja area. The US military was further
reported in the media as stating that MNF troops attacked
the house in question to capture "a foreign fighter
facilitator for the Al Qaeda in Iraq network". Other reports
indicate that over the past five months, there have been a
significant number of lethal incidents in which the MNF is
alleged to have used excessive force to respond to perceived
threats either at checkpoints or by using air bombing in
civilian areas.
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I think if God had anything to do with it Georgie Boy would be in prison. Just sayin'. nm
rhett o rick
Apr 2013
#129
Yeah, let's cheer for something that will give the right wing media a tingle down their leg.
Comrade_McKenzie
Apr 2013
#7
The poster consistently posts anti-Obama threads. Going to put hound on ignore..n/t
monmouth3
Apr 2013
#61
Well, as far as I know, the poster never spent time supporting Bush on right wing
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#109
The vast majority of DUers supported the war in Afghanistan from day one???
progressoid
Apr 2013
#101
Obama "started wars"? I thought he's finishing TWO that were begun by Dumbya? Trashing thread!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2013
#106
Correction: He's *finishing* the war in Afghanistan. No amount of ODS will dimish the facts.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2013
#114
If people are equating Obama with Bush and Bush is evil, then Obama is evil.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2013
#139
Then wait until someone actually does that. Comparing policies is not comparing
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#149
People HAVE been doing that. They've been attacking Obama the person rather than his policies.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2013
#156
I have never seen anyone here say that Obama is evil. I imagine if someone did say
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#157
I agree with holding Obama accountable for the SS cuts talk. I happen to think time is better spent
Liberal_Stalwart71
Apr 2013
#158
Oh lookie, a link from "World Socialists". Funniest damned thing I've seen in awhile. How's Hanna?
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2013
#123
They hate POTUS so much that some lefties want to credit Bush more than Obama for ending Iraq!
alcibiades_mystery
Apr 2013
#30
So your claim is that .... Obama wanted to keep troops in Iraq forever ... but an
JoePhilly
Apr 2013
#88
We're out of Iraq? I didn't know that. We have one of the biggest embassies, well
sabrina 1
Apr 2013
#150
President Obama complied with the 2008 SOFA Agreement for withdrawal of American troops
bvar22
Apr 2013
#148
Hillary Clinton should win the Noble Peace Prize for her peace keeping efforts.
graham4anything
Apr 2013
#12
"Must be why they call it commondreams ... 2 paragraphs, and straight to sleep."
Number23
Apr 2013
#145
Hard to see how the Nobel Committee could ignore an actual Internet Petition (nt)
Nye Bevan
Apr 2013
#15
It should be. He had done nothing to deserve it. It was like an award for simply not being Bush.
MotherPetrie
Apr 2013
#49
Celebrating Obama's Nobel Peace Prize and his efforts in the spirit of the award.
ProSense
Apr 2013
#72
They can say whatever they want about why they decided to give Pres. Obama the award,
hughee99
Apr 2013
#121
Hey, if Kisinger can get a Nobel Peace Prize, I consider the award somewhat sarcastic.
Marr
Apr 2013
#127
No. But, they may add a Humanitarian citatation for killing people with drones.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2013
#136