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In reply to the discussion: Why are tits so fetishized? [View all]FarrenH
(768 posts)Almost every bisexual I've met makes this claim. And almost every gay and straight person I know (and I know a lot of both) disagrees with it. In fact just recently I said that to the lone bisexual person in a mixed crowd and ("It's funny how bisexuals always say that"
and every gay and straight person present laughed and signaled agreement (we're all friends, so it wasn't mean laughter - I just wanted to point out that only the person who self-identified as bi claimed all of our sexualities were totally fluid)
And bisexuals, while lucky enough to have a more fluid sexuality, are in a very small minority.
From both anecdotal and limited statistical evidence, I feel safe saying that people who strongly self-identify as gay in their teens (like the gay friends I went to school with) strongly identify as gay in their mid to late 40s. Similarly for straights. Occasionally a straight person turns out to simply be in the closet. But once they come out they don't turn back, ever. And if they're gay, they come out as gay, not bisexual. Neither do they write off their 20 or 30 years in the closet to sexual preference confusion or change. Its always "I was always gay and living a lie".
The scientific research on this isn't anywhere close to conclusive yet every single open-minded gay and straight person I've ever met has pretty much been in agreement about this. For the vast majority of human beings, orientation is something you discover quite young and it stays that way until you die. Experience tells me its a more fluid in women than men, but not that much. People may go through several sexual fetishes in their lives but for most, they will always be enjoyed in an identifiably gay or straight context.
Personally the fact that I almost always hear these sentiments either from radical gender theorists or self-identified bisexuals convinces me that they reflect ideology (the "blank slate" mentality that has infected much of American social science) and wish-fulfilment respectively.
I admit, there isn't enough settled science on this to make a strong claim. But 43 years of personal experience among very diverse groups of people of all orientations make claims that our orientations aren't in most cases "fixed" before puberty (whether by genetic, epigenetic, congenital or other means) sound quite preposterous.
ps. One more admission. My experience is heavily weighted towards guys, both gay and straight. I have a sneaky suspicion the sample size of women I've known that intimately is too small to draw brought conclusions about sexual fluidity from anecdotal evidence. But it certainly holds true for guys of whom I have known a hell of a lot.