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32. I didn't know he submitted to tests...

Reply to JDPriestly (Reply #30)

Wed Apr 3, 2013, 04:40 PM

Apr 2013

.... I'm with you, JD. It's all bogus.

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Swedish Judges Says Assange Allegations 'A Mess' [View all] xchrom Apr 2013 OP

Sounds good for Assange. Get the Swedes to announce the same and it'll be done. freshwest Apr 2013 #1

Trouble is, plenty of evidence makes Sweden a part of the Extraordinary Rendition... TheMadMonk Apr 2013 #12

Re: Manning. As was said in the 60s, military justice is to justice as military music is to music. byeya Apr 2013 #2

I worship John Phillip Sousa. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #16

;-) ReRe Apr 2013 #18

Third share first to first first in two years that's me 'n my trumpet. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #26

Entire percussion section & trumpet in HS, French Horn in college, piano, guitar.... ReRe Apr 2013 #27

I put down the horn quite a while ago, now I just do guitar. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #54

I like Sousa too. ananda Apr 2013 #37

What is on trial here is democracy malaise Apr 2013 #3

+10000000 woo me with science Apr 2013 #36

But it's okay for Assange to do so. randome Apr 2013 #38

Assange already won. It was clear from the day Wikileaks posted the CIA memo sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #55

So Assange should be able to return to Sweden for questioning as he promised to do (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #4

That was good. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #8

Yep. Aug., 2012 ~ Zorra Apr 2013 #5

All they have to do is guarantee not to extradite him. bemildred Apr 2013 #6

Maybe they should question him in a location other than Sweden. JVS Apr 2013 #9

Hey, that could work too! nt bemildred Apr 2013 #10

Only if he agrees to be taken into custody if the Swedes decide to arrest him. hack89 Apr 2013 #11

Arrest him for having sex without a condom without consent? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #19

It might be baseless - that's why we have judicial systems to sort such things out. hack89 Apr 2013 #20

Seriously... ReRe Apr 2013 #23

And neither of the women accused Assange of rape Matariki Apr 2013 #28

Well, the STD test is moot now... ReRe Apr 2013 #29

It's my understanding that he gave the evidence required for the STD JDPriestly Apr 2013 #31

Untrue. The investigation into the rape complaint was reopened on the appeal of the complainant struggle4progress Apr 2013 #79

True. As much as you seem to wish it were not. Matariki Apr 2013 #88

You wrote: "neither of the women accused Assange of rape." But one did, struggle4progress Apr 2013 #90

Your link was old. AND it looks more like she's addressing the language of Swedish law Matariki Apr 2013 #96

" It may well be that the serious allegations of sexual assault and rape are not substantiated struggle4progress Apr 2013 #98

"a Swedish court approved a request to detain Mr Assange for questioning relating to one count struggle4progress Apr 2013 #91

"... The position with offence 4 is different. This is an allegation of rape. The framework list struggle4progress Apr 2013 #93

"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story" struggle4progress Apr 2013 #94

Struggle4progress you always seem to swoop down on any post about Assange Matariki Apr 2013 #95

I've provided links for my assertions struggle4progress Apr 2013 #97

Seriously, if you're not being PAID to make anti-Assange posts in such bulk Matariki Apr 2013 #99

Which of the links I've provided do you find questionable? struggle4progress Apr 2013 #100

I'd rather understand your obsession. Why do you post so much negative stuff about Assange? Matariki Apr 2013 #102

I simply disproved your claim: "neither of the women accused Assange of rape" struggle4progress Apr 2013 #103

I wouldn't call a 3 year old link "proof" - and I'm STILL interested in your anti-Assange obsession Matariki Apr 2013 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author Matariki Apr 2013 #101

Few are as accurate as struggle4progress, either. randome Apr 2013 #105

As I understand it, he already submitted biological samples JDPriestly Apr 2013 #30

I didn't know he submitted to tests... ReRe Apr 2013 #32

I can't guarantee that I am right about that, but if he did not actually JDPriestly Apr 2013 #43

The presence of semen would prove that there was unprotected sex, JDPriestly Apr 2013 #45

That would make for a quick resolution, unless it really *is* about a sex crime. freshwest Apr 2013 #13

Well, if nothing else it would expose his dissembling, if that's what it is. bemildred Apr 2013 #14

Lindskog, in his speech, suggests forward extradition is highly unlikely struggle4progress Apr 2013 #56

Yeah, I read that. nt bemildred Apr 2013 #58

You can watch the speech if interested: I posted a link downthread struggle4progress Apr 2013 #60

I'm not interested. bemildred Apr 2013 #62

Lindskog's speech is actually directed towards law and policy wonks: struggle4progress Apr 2013 #66

Exactly, that's the stuff I'm not interested in. bemildred Apr 2013 #67

To be clear: if they ever get him back to Sweden, such issues might be relevant. bemildred Apr 2013 #69

"his past experience" means what, exactly? struggle4progress Apr 2013 #70

Don't play stupid with me, or I'll go back to ignoring you. bemildred Apr 2013 #74

I suppose he IS unhappy: UK courts have ordered his extradition based on a rape complaint struggle4progress Apr 2013 #75

Yeah, I expect he is not happy with the UK justice system either. bemildred Apr 2013 #77

Authorities usually don't negotiate conditions for extradition with persons who have been ordered struggle4progress Apr 2013 #80

Yeah, I know that. They already extradited him to Sweden, that's why he is in the embassy. bemildred Apr 2013 #82

The so-called centrists among us will not be happy. They support the suppression by the 1%. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #7

well, they support their guy...once hes gone they'll be pretending to be outraged by injustice xiamiam Apr 2013 #15

So true whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #22

Lindskog, in his talk, in no way suggested there was any plot to destroy Assange struggle4progress Apr 2013 #68

False treestar Apr 2013 #24

Of course they dont see the "suppression". They see it as security. The 1% protecting us from the rhett o rick Apr 2013 #25

Well, yes you do treestar Apr 2013 #39

I make it much more simple. Until Cheney goes to trial for the murder of thousands of children, rhett o rick Apr 2013 #40

My view on this precisely. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #44

I don't have any animosity towards anyone treestar Apr 2013 #51

Of course we should not suspend the enforcement of criminal law, however, rhett o rick Apr 2013 #52

So what is holding the Swedish prosecutor up from filing charges? It's been nearly sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #92

All criminal process in Sweden should cease until Cheney is behind bars? struggle4progress Apr 2013 #59

That's a silly suggestion. nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #63

I agree. Cheney's crimes have no connection whatsoever to the Swedish sexual complaints struggle4progress Apr 2013 #65

Cheney is protected by the 1% and Assange is persecuted by the 1%. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #71

I thought we had agreed Cheney had nothing whatsoever to do with the Swedish complaint struggle4progress Apr 2013 #76

I have given my stance here, what's yours? nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #84

"Get the facts right first. Then do the analysis. And don't jumble things together" struggle4progress Apr 2013 #86

K&R JDPriestly Apr 2013 #17

So the actual "I think it is a mess" quote seems to apply to the US extradition situation muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #21

K&R "It should never be a crime to make known crime of a state." woo me with science Apr 2013 #33

I'm sure Sweden has no problem with releasing all their military and diplomatic documents, then. randome Apr 2013 #35

Dont beat around the bush. Say what you mean. Do you want Julian to be rhett o rick Apr 2013 #41

I want him to face whatever charges or inquiries await him in Sweden. randome Apr 2013 #49

I think there is a good chance that the USofA would love to rhett o rick Apr 2013 #50

Assange doesn't fall under the UCMJ struggle4progress Apr 2013 #57

And so?????? rhett o rick Apr 2013 #61

Credibility depends on getting the facts right: struggle4progress Apr 2013 #64

I am not disputing that. The UCMJ isnt the only tool of the government. Especially with the NDAA as rhett o rick Apr 2013 #72

You suggested a parallelism between Assange and Manning. Now you mention NDAA, but Manning's struggle4progress Apr 2013 #81

Sorry, I can see you are struggling with this. I believe our government rhett o rick Apr 2013 #83

Manning isn't being persecuted, as far as I can tell. He had access to restricted information, struggle4progress Apr 2013 #87

I try to keep things in prospective. Currently the criminals of the 1% dont get prosecuted rhett o rick Apr 2013 #109

If you actually listen to Lindskog's speech, you will notice that struggle4progress Apr 2013 #85

If the USA wants Assange, why don't they extradite him from the UK? Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #34

And extradition from the UK would be legally less complex: if, after the UK extradites struggle4progress Apr 2013 #46

This ^^^^^^ treestar Apr 2013 #53

Assange is a conspiracy theorist with a persecution complex. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #42

University of Adelaide Live Stream: The Assange Affair struggle4progress Apr 2013 #47

kick woo me with science Apr 2013 #48

K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #73

I wasn't aware that criminal cases were litigated through symposium speeches brooklynite Apr 2013 #78

Lindskog merely discussed some issues related the case, making no effort to resolve them struggle4progress Apr 2013 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author Matariki Apr 2013 #89

"It should never be a crime to make known crime of a state," G_j Apr 2013 #104

+100000000 woo me with science Apr 2013 #108