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Yo_Mama

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30. It's explained in the article
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:46 PM
Apr 2013

The cancer doctors have to pay money for the drugs up front. For Medicare patients, they are allowed 6% writeup on the drug. Their administration fees are very little.

Well, there is always some loss and wastage, and cutting their 6% margin by 2% is actually cutting their reimbursement more like 30%. But they still have overhead costs for these patients, so now they will have to either spend their own money to treat these patients, or stop treating them.

How long any particular clinic can continue really depends on how much of a bank loan they have to cover the interval between buying the drug and getting paid back by Medicare. Those loans cost money. If they are using their own money they can continue longer, and if they don't treat many Medicare patients they can continue a lot longer, even if they are losing money on those patients.

This is very sad, but remember that SGR was supposed to cut fees by not 2%, but by more than 27%. And when I tried to explain to DU'ers that this would result in denial of treatment to Medicare patients, the majority response was just to cuss out the doctors.

For what it's worth, future scheduled Medicare cuts aren't going to be sustainable for these clinics either. Some of the rural hospitals get special higher reimbursements, and they may be able to keep going with these treatments. But there isn't the capacity in urban hospitals to take over the clinic roles, and there isn't enough of a margin in Medicare to fund expansion in hospital treatment centers. And there have been proposals to cut some of the special provisions for rural hospitals.

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one might reasonably ask why these "drugs" cost too much nt msongs Apr 2013 #1
If Medicare negotiated drug prices then maybe the doctors could keep treating patients. dkf Apr 2013 #2
Probably more than 50% less in other countries demosincebirth Apr 2013 #29
Medicare being able to negotiate drug prices was taken off the table ... slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #35
You forgot to add Max Baucus. dkf Apr 2013 #37
How can this be, when Medicare spending is not included in the sequester? Lasher Apr 2013 #3
"Sequestration cuts 2 percent from Medicare pay for docs" Trillo Apr 2013 #6
Medicare is getting a 2% cut. sendero Apr 2013 #10
It's explained in the article Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #30
Yes.. sendero Apr 2013 #43
Oops. Missed on that one. Kingofalldems Apr 2013 #18
me thinks it is time to raise some hell dembotoz Apr 2013 #4
Here is an email that my wife received. It has info on responding to this issue. Soundman Apr 2013 #5
Bet they won't show the clinic's financial statements. Hoyt Apr 2013 #7
The docs will get a raise in net pay running off the Medicare patients Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #32
If they have patients to replace them, but most don't. Hoyt Apr 2013 #39
I hate the sequester shenmue Apr 2013 #8
It's just the "Obama Haters" doing this...nothing to see there.. KoKo Apr 2013 #9
First ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #21
Higher cost settings means into hospitals Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #31
Oh ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #46
I support a "single-payer" system such as jazzimov Apr 2013 #26
And the psychopathic, sophomoric Republicans think this is FUNNY? ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2013 #11
Ah, yes, it's working just as planned. HeiressofBickworth Apr 2013 #12
+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #14
So our government has, in effect, created a plethora of death panels via the sequester and is about indepat Apr 2013 #13
Exactly...and Obama wants to cut the Social Security benefits of the ones who make it through this! forestpath Apr 2013 #15
No, he doesn't. Stop spreading disinformation, please. jazzimov Apr 2013 #24
You are the one spreading disinformation. Unless you want to accuse forestpath Apr 2013 #25
Call me naive, but... savebigbird Apr 2013 #16
I agree with you. I used to work for a doctor and she felt the exact same way too. forestpath Apr 2013 #19
Well, if the doctors can't stay in business without treating it as a business??? Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #33
I know these things. savebigbird Apr 2013 #42
Lance Armstrong and LiveSTRONG will step up to organize the public, oh, wait. nt proverbialwisdom Apr 2013 #17
Republicans are celebrating. ProSense Apr 2013 #20
This blows my mind (nt) Babel_17 Apr 2013 #22
WTF? Drug prices have absolutely NOTHING to do with jazzimov Apr 2013 #23
That's not true in these clinics Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #34
Medicare should negotiate a bulk price and doctors are just the conduit dkf Apr 2013 #36
I agree Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #38
It is a head scratcher... dkf Apr 2013 #41
Welcome to the world of for profit healthcare magic59 Apr 2013 #27
I want to see the tax returns, of the places that... quadrature Apr 2013 #28
that is such crap. The reason health care is so expensive in this country is because doctors and liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #40
The real death panels: "we'd lose money". That about sums it up. loudsue Apr 2013 #44
kick * Redfairen Apr 2013 #45
So what I'm reading is that money is more important than saving people's lives. Apophis Apr 2013 #47
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