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stevenleser

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104. My version of low cost has excellent rail mass transit to get all around where I live so no car is

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 01:02 AM

Apr 2013

necessary.

$475/mo = Average car payment in the US
$ 67/mo = Average car insurance cost in the US
$180/mo = Average amount spent for gas for a car in the US
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That totals $722/month every month for a car not including maintenance, repairs, registration, etc. That I and most of the people in my city don't pay where I live.

If there are two adults in your household and they both need a car, double the car payment and amount spent on gas and add another $30-50/month for insurance and now you are at around $1160/month.

A lot of people say my city is expensive because of rent. But if you add $722 or $1160 per month to what you spend for housing now, that is what you could afford in NYC without a car.

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Looking to move to a low cost state? [View all] dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 OP

I think they are just in alphatetical order el_bryanto Apr 2013 #1

What kinds of services are you talking about? Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #45

Social services for the most part alarimer Apr 2013 #76

It seems that social services are being cut just about everywhere Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #77

As a ' Yankee', I would never consider moving to the South Trajan Apr 2013 #2

You do realize that Knoxville, TN isn't that much different Fawke Em Apr 2013 #4

No, people like that can't see that through their cordelia Apr 2013 #5

I lived in the Ozarks for 15 months Trajan Apr 2013 #9

Depends on where you are in the South Spider Jerusalem Apr 2013 #21

Austin. eom ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2013 #99

I'm married to a liberal atheist man of Jewish background who's from Fawke Em Apr 2013 #22

Well ... Trajan Apr 2013 #29

Maybe he's just better at it than you... Sharpie Apr 2013 #30

Maybe he is a cultural masochist ... Trajan Apr 2013 #40

Any person who leans left and lives in the South is a Masochist? Sharpie Apr 2013 #41

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #42

It's amazing with social and conversation skills... Sharpie Apr 2013 #46

As someone who spent many years living in both rural and VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #62

I prefer chocolate and cherry. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #65

You just weren't looking in the right place... Sharpie Apr 2013 #73

I lived there for years and years VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #80

Or maybe he's more tolerant. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #64

As I understand it there's some pretty conservative areas justiceischeap Apr 2013 #6

There are ... indeed ... Trajan Apr 2013 #10

Vermont. Every county voted for Obama both in 2008 and 2012. cali Apr 2013 #15

I would love to live in Vermont. mercymechap Apr 2013 #28

That's true! Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #57

I lived in Springfield MO ... Trajan Apr 2013 #11

Springfield is not liberal Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #17

Mine was a relative statement Trajan Apr 2013 #18

I'm well aware what your statement was Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #19

Fire and brimstone in Springfield Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #37

Well ... I was being generous I suppose Trajan Apr 2013 #38

I spent considerable time in Missouri Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #43

We visited MSSU while there Trajan Apr 2013 #44

MSSU (Missouri Southern State University) is in Joplin Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #47

I agree. Big cities in the south are voting blue. Even in conservative South Carolina, bluestate10 Apr 2013 #52

I am FROM SC VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #81

Not from my experience...Are you just talking about Charleston? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #82

Except that the minimum wage in Oregon is higher Horse with no Name Apr 2013 #78

That is possibly the most blatant lie I've ever seen written on DU. Knoxville, TN and Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #90

Same here nt LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #8

Hmm... my Southern-educated son is in the 99th Fawke Em Apr 2013 #23

Yes there are exceptions to the rule ....with those IQ stats you should understand that! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #83

I do, but I hate the broadbrush stroke. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #91

Well if the people of the south don't like broad brush strokes... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #95

I don't know any Southerner who lives up to your accusations. Fawke Em Apr 2013 #96

They call it the War of Northern Aggression not the Civil War. VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #97

That's a joke! Fawke Em Apr 2013 #98

OH no it is most certainly NOT a joke my friend VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #100

by the way....have you noticed that SC STILL has the Confederate flag (flag war) in front of the VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #101

Also do you know that they celebrated the 150th anniversary of the Civil War VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #102

and here: VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #103

I moved from Cleveland 21 years ago... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #36

I live in a place where people's kids are ostracised because their parents are atheists alarimer Apr 2013 #79

totally agree with you! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2013 #84

Cheaper isn't always the least expensive. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #3

Less in taxes usually mean EC Apr 2013 #7

I can assure that we have all those services down here dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #51

LOL, yet there they are on the Sadness Belt Glitterati Apr 2013 #12

Everyone has their own measurement of "happiness" dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #14

These measures were pretty universal Glitterati Apr 2013 #16

Mine is one of the highest tax states. cali Apr 2013 #13

I will support my DU southern friends politically. But I love my New England state. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #56

And skiing ... eom Kolesar Apr 2013 #66

Washington would seem wonderful. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #20

Do they have electricity there yet? talkingmime Apr 2013 #24

In Washington? You betcha. Shrike47 Apr 2013 #31

If my state was any lower cost I'd be homeless n/t Fumesucker Apr 2013 #25

I like it where I am. JNelson6563 Apr 2013 #26

If I had enough money, dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #69

Alabama or Alaska? quinnox Apr 2013 #27

Aw, come on, it's not that bad. Blue_In_AK Apr 2013 #48

Not true any longer.. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #67

Mississippi's cost of living is comparable to Alabama's LuvNewcastle Apr 2013 #32

Well, maybe Oxford? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #34

The town of Oxford is okay; I lived there LuvNewcastle Apr 2013 #39

Between Katrina and BP, the coast is pretty much out of my range now. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #85

Huntsville Alabama was okay 15 years ago olddots Apr 2013 #33

Still good. It sits in the knowledge belt of Alabama, and even the nation. nt bluestate10 Apr 2013 #59

Cost of living is important, BUT SoCalDem Apr 2013 #35

Low taxes + low pay doesn't alwasy pencil out well bhikkhu Apr 2013 #49

Alaska is nowhere near being a low-cost state jmowreader Apr 2013 #50

At one time I was considering Alaska dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #53

After reading these replies, all I have to say is "Nice try, dg". liberaltrucker Apr 2013 #54

I know where you mean, up there. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #72

I'll be back one day liberaltrucker Apr 2013 #86

Texas has no state income tax. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #55

me, too. but it has to be in the west. you know. oregon, washintonn, colorado. seabeyond Apr 2013 #58

I hear you. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #75

Good for you DG. But I love living in New England. I love being one hour away from bluestate10 Apr 2013 #60

Well I can say I have lived all over the world and even across the united states basically southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #61

So, let me ask you this, in how many of these places all over the nation and the world that you have Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #89

Yeah I know. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #93

In this world you always will have bigots because they refuse to expand their minds. It is my southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #94

I'm in Florida madville Apr 2013 #63

and I think Fla. has a homestead act??? dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #71

Pennsylvania does not tax retirement pensions or clothing Kolesar Apr 2013 #68

"My next state will be one with no prohibition against pot". dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #70

Food is high in this tiny town away from the big cities dixiegrrrrl Apr 2013 #74

I often like to say that we live in a big, wonderful country SheilaT Apr 2013 #87

Yeah sure, but you still have to live in Alabama. A truly lovely place for those keen on shooting, Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #88

another Dixie vs Yankee thread? DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #92

My version of low cost has excellent rail mass transit to get all around where I live so no car is stevenleser Apr 2013 #104

not really. I love WA. liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #105