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BlueCaliDem

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60. I can see the merit of your argument, BUT
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:40 AM
Apr 2013

this isn't true:

Whatever Carrie Underwood says today will be forgotten tomorrow - replaced by something some other celeb says or does. It is disposable information, and will be treated accordingly.

How do I know? Well, look at this thread alone. But in all honesty, I'm referring to her doting fans in my post.

No one can deny that those young people aren't influenced, however subconsciously, by what she publicly says. To deny it would be short-sighted at best. Elvis-the-pelvis rocked the music world and changed the mindset of generations with his "scandalous" dance moves, changing our music industry and televised choreography.

Big stars like Underwood can change young people's minds who can then easily buy into the CONservative lies because it sounds so, "awwww, so sweet". Propaganda, no matter how sweetly delivered, is still mind-altering.

That sounds a bit too much like a call for censorship of individuals, on the basis that their statements don't coincide with your political beliefs.

And that's utter bullshit. That's what YOU read into it, perhaps because you conform to CONservative "ideals". But if you're honest with yourself, you'll admit, even if it's to yourself, that modern-day conservatism is what's destroying this country and it earned the right to be eradicated.

Yes, Underwood has every right to voice her opinion, but let's not forget here, so do I. The difference is, I don't have millions upon millions of fans hanging off my every word nor influenced by it. She does. And that makes her statement an indirect threat to the well-being and future of our country. You first need to win the hearts and minds of the people before you can control them.

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Apparently she has chosen Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #1
Actually, by making this Stepford-Wife tripe public, she's influencing a LOT of young women BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #7
I totally understand where you're coming from. Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #10
Precisely Sherman A1 Apr 2013 #11
Good post. n/t tammywammy Apr 2013 #34
I can see the merit of your argument, BUT BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #60
Uh, Carrie Underwood is nowhere near Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #98
+1 In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #119
Make the choices you want but only publicize the ones I agree with? Sharpie Apr 2013 #12
Try reading my post again. You've completely misunderstood it and BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #64
Passing judgment on people, are we? n/t. TimberValley Apr 2013 #128
So she should speak up on issues with which you agree, but needs to STFU when ... 11 Bravo Apr 2013 #19
Bravo. You've just completely misunderstood the gist of my post BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #63
I don't think women should be forced to do what other women want them to do lunatica Apr 2013 #35
+1 Sissyk Apr 2013 #42
I agree. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #62
Those same women are hearing feminist's viewpoints also lunatica Apr 2013 #104
Yeah BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #106
My post addresses the long-term harm statements like Underwood's can have BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #69
Should women who have a more progressive mind and outlook make public statements about what they do The2ndWheel Apr 2013 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #134
... abelenkpe Apr 2013 #2
There's a difference between 'telling and asking'. BVictor1 Apr 2013 #3
It's her personal choice LittleBlue Apr 2013 #4
I'm a feminist and I don't think a choice of staying home is anti-feminist lunatica Apr 2013 #103
Sounds more like an answer that panders to her fan base. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #5
Yep. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #28
And we have a winner MattBaggins Apr 2013 #29
I would say pipi_k Apr 2013 #30
Indeed it does. Her fanbase are the same people who threatened the Dixie Chicks. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #79
If it's her choice, I don't see any problem. Arkansas Granny Apr 2013 #6
Feminism IS about women making their own choices Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #8
Well, as long as someone is dictating to us, does it really matter who? Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #17
I don't see anyone dictating in this scenario. hughee99 Apr 2013 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #72
You're right. hughee99 Apr 2013 #75
Women were always told they preferred submissive roles treestar Apr 2013 #40
Is being a submissive wife an ACCEPTABLE choice though? alp227 Apr 2013 #73
Sounds to me like he's going to be making the choices for her n/t wryter2000 Apr 2013 #130
who's Carrie Underwood? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #9
Ohhh edgy... trumad Apr 2013 #14
No, that was a totally serious question. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #49
Beiber and Swift I would recognize. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #77
Pet Peeve #1 Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #110
Tough. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #111
And there's literally this thing called Google Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #113
If I don't know who she is, how can I imagine that it's "superior" not to know? Maybe she's GREAT. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #114
Because (a) you probably have at least a vague idea of who she is, Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #116
You need a new hat, Karnak. That one's not working. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #117
Yeah, right. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #118
However, mine do smell like honey. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #115
hahahaha In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #120
She'll be divorced in 2 years... trumad Apr 2013 #15
And it will be messy! nt Walk away Apr 2013 #26
Who cares? HappyMe Apr 2013 #16
It's her life. She can make her own choices. ananda Apr 2013 #18
I'd quit if my Wife asked me to. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #20
A person who is ready to retire early! Now all you need is the bucks! nt Walk away Apr 2013 #27
I'm shootin' for 55-57. n/t. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #31
Good for you! Walk away Apr 2013 #83
not the same thing Bradical79 Apr 2013 #36
One half of a married couple asking the other for something. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #41
Recently, LWolf Apr 2013 #21
I am in agreement with you. Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #32
Another interesting aspect of this scenario The Straight Story Apr 2013 #43
And I know what I'd tell him, also. That's why I never remarried after I divorced more Arkansas Granny Apr 2013 #46
That's right, everyone makes their own choices. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #67
It must be nice to be rich and talented and able to have that choice. Javaman Apr 2013 #22
You posted exactly my thoughts on this. nt Ilsa Apr 2013 #25
Excelent post! I don't see her eeking out a living, working at Wal-Mart even if Mike needed for ladjf Apr 2013 #57
Why is she supposed to be a role model for anything? undeterred Apr 2013 #23
True. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #82
She probably needs hauled off to re-education camp before it gets worse and she makes a dongle joke The Straight Story Apr 2013 #24
Doesn't sound like they worked it out between the two of them treestar Apr 2013 #38
"call the shots" were the author's words, not Underwood's. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #50
This will clear up all confusion you may have with the number 0 snooper2 Apr 2013 #68
If her husband would quit his job if she asked then I say OK. peace13 Apr 2013 #33
She is going to end up in a divorce treestar Apr 2013 #37
Two great quotes from another wife with a profession--Hillary Rodham Clinton marshall Apr 2013 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #45
Cool, I wish her luck! cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #47
Never heard of her. nt Deep13 Apr 2013 #52
Poor little thing. I give the marriage two years max. nt Zorra Apr 2013 #53
theyve been married since 2010, per wikipedia n/t alp227 Apr 2013 #74
I know. I give the marriage two years from now max. nt Zorra Apr 2013 #95
"When you make that promise..." What "promise" would that be Kemosabe? yellowcanine Apr 2013 #54
isn't she the real bread winner of the family? warrior1 Apr 2013 #55
This shows that one doesn't have to be very smart to be a successful entertainer. ladjf Apr 2013 #56
Sure honey. Every husband in America would ask you to quit a career worth about a billion. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #58
How about if the rest of us ask you to quit Carrie? Please? nt TeamPooka Apr 2013 #59
Rich woman with infinite choices before her... Orsino Apr 2013 #61
I didn't see anything here Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #99
It's her recommendation, not just a suggestion. Orsino Apr 2013 #108
You obviously don't know the difference Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #109
I think she didn't demonstrate an understanding of that difference. Orsino Apr 2013 #121
I think that people who are reading Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #122
She has recommended that wives obey their husbands in such matters. Orsino Apr 2013 #123
Here we go with 'recommended' again ... Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #125
And lots of men go to work because their wives tell them to. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #65
I'd rather Underwood quit her career because she's a talentless hack. alp227 Apr 2013 #66
Lol, typical comment on ANY star. She is a great singer/performer! Jealous? Logical Apr 2013 #81
Carrie Underwood, Taylor Swift, anything on the radio = country POP. Real country = alp227 Apr 2013 #84
"Real Country" = What I like. "Fake country" = What I don't like. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #85
Welcome to the 2000s. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #87
You got your Hanks mixed up there. Just saying. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #94
OH YEAH, YEAH! alp227 Apr 2013 #97
Reason #562 why I hate Oklahoma LondonReign2 Apr 2013 #70
It's none of my business Aerows Apr 2013 #71
Looks like she's establishing her far-right bona fides jmowreader Apr 2013 #76
Mike Fisher is not some who you want as your son-in-law. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #78
Fisher is originally from Peterborough, Ontario, Canada. alp227 Apr 2013 #86
He still comes from the Santorum school of belief. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #88
Underwood, however, has described her church as "gay friendly" alp227 Apr 2013 #91
Sounds pretty stupid to me, but it ain't my biz. Iggo Apr 2013 #80
Celebrities should never, ever be role models KingFlorez Apr 2013 #89
Women like this do us no favors. JNelson6563 Apr 2013 #90
Will never understand why it seems so often that it's the woman that needs to give everything up Number23 Apr 2013 #92
High talk from a lottery winner. PM Martin Apr 2013 #96
It's their marriage. They manage it as they see fit...as it should be. n/t cynatnite Apr 2013 #100
I wonder how long she'd enjoy that? How much time can be spent bossing the maids about and MADem Apr 2013 #101
Or maybe she knows he wouldn't ask that of her unless it was a very very serious situation. dkf Apr 2013 #102
I would hope they wouldn't come up with "dictates" for any reason wryter2000 Apr 2013 #133
I had never even heard of Carrie Underwood until now lanlady Apr 2013 #105
Shit, if he was making + $150k ... Myrina Apr 2013 #107
DU: Your body, your choice. Your life, OUR choice. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #112
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #129
Whatever, free country. Rex Apr 2013 #124
It's her own business. Why should anyone object? TimberValley Apr 2013 #126
You do that, honey lamb wryter2000 Apr 2013 #127
It's not like she HAS to work - lynne Apr 2013 #131
It's really nice when your rich like she is and she can make that choice. Not everyone has that southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #132
+1 YoungDemCA Apr 2013 #136
Corporate Nashville country/pop/rock is probably the most collectively right-wing music genre... YoungDemCA Apr 2013 #135
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