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73. Education is fine, just don't let kids handle guns.

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 02:32 PM

Apr 2013

Again, and I'm getting rather tired of repeating this, IF YOU HAVE A GUN IN YOUR HOUSE, BOTH YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN ARE FAR MORE LIKELY TO DIE FROM A GUN THAN THOSE WITHOUT A GUN IN THEIR HOUSE.

Do you not understand that? Cars provide transportation, it could well be considered a hardship being without a car. GUNS KILL THINGS. That's all they're good for. If you're without a car, you may be less likely to be killed in a car, but you're also going to miss out on all that owning a car entails. If you're without a gun, that means you and your family are less likely to die by a gun. But what will you be missing out on? Well, firing a gun, I suppose. The gun nuts tend to think that that alone is worth risking their family's life. And that's pretty fucking sad.

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A sad gun nut reality [View all] MichaelSoE Apr 2013 OP

That is sad TxDemChem Apr 2013 #1

For too many RW gun weirdos, their gun is more important in their life than their own children. baldguy Apr 2013 #2

Gun weirdos and nuts of all kinds: gun nuttery is one area where big "P" politics doesn't matter alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #5

why "RW"? seems to me from posts here this also applies to gunners of both sides DrDan Apr 2013 #27

I think they see gun ownership as a way to protect their families. ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #54

If that little girl ever hurts or kills someone with that gun AndyA Apr 2013 #3

"instilling such an interest" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #10

Much less severely. EOTE Apr 2013 #15

No. My SIL went shooting with us this past weekend and it wasn't her first time. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #20

Are you aware that having a gun in the house makes it far more likely EOTE Apr 2013 #25

It looks like it's a staged photo, so that leads me to believe the "idiot" is Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #37

It's staged because it's more convenient for you to believe that? EOTE Apr 2013 #39

Or it's not staged because it'smore convenient for you to believe that. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #40

So, ignore facts and then accuse the OP of being a fake. EOTE Apr 2013 #41

That's why I'm a proponent of gun safety education Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #42

Let me tell you this for the hundredth time or so. Listen up. EOTE Apr 2013 #43

And my husband, FIL and myself set a good example for my SIL on gun safety Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #46

Uhhh, you were the one peddling photos, not me. EOTE Apr 2013 #48

It's telling how you work so strenuously to make "gun nut" equal all gun owners Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #50

I think "gun nuts" are the parents who let their children handle guns. EOTE Apr 2013 #52

My SIL is well-instructed in "leave the room and find an adult" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #57

If you haven't seen any gun nuts on DU, then you haven't been paying attention. EOTE Apr 2013 #58

For someone who pretends to be worried about reckless and hostile people Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #62

Yeah, awful me, hurting those gun nuts' little feelings. EOTE Apr 2013 #66

oh really - a poll on DU2 showed a half-dozen or so (minimum) who believe in NO control over guns DrDan Apr 2013 #61

I call shenanigans. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #63

Easier than putting some thought into it, I suppose. EOTE Apr 2013 #69

A posters interpretation of an unscientific poll on a closed forum? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #70

You said you don't believe it. EOTE Apr 2013 #72

of course you do - just like the validity of the picture DrDan Apr 2013 #82

It's your subjective interpretation of an unscientific poll on a closed forum. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #91

typical denial - do you happen to have a pitbull also? DrDan Apr 2013 #92

What I don't have is a link to a poll from DU2. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #94

now you do DrDan Apr 2013 #104

Would it make you feel more confident if I said I do not place myself amongst Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #106

we are in agreement DrDan Apr 2013 #107

So am I a gun nut then? sarisataka Apr 2013 #65

Do you match any of the criteria I provided? My words are there for you to see. EOTE Apr 2013 #67

You have several criteria... sarisataka Apr 2013 #71

Education is fine, just don't let kids handle guns. EOTE Apr 2013 #73

May I assume you are against guns? sarisataka Apr 2013 #77

Sure, the risk will NEVER be zero. EOTE Apr 2013 #80

"develop a conscience" pintobean Apr 2013 #44

Some people care more for their guns than they do the lives of their children. EOTE Apr 2013 #45

Some people care more for their alcohol than they do the lives of their children. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #47

Yeah, that's pretty sick in all cases. EOTE Apr 2013 #49

So now you're judging by action rather than characteristic Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #53

No shit, there are actions and characteristics which are unsafe for children. EOTE Apr 2013 #55

How would a capacity limit have saved any lives in an accidental discharge? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #64

Why is "accidental discharge" the only criteria you're looking at? EOTE Apr 2013 #68

"Why is "accidental discharge" the only criteria you're looking at?" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #74

The magazine capacity issue is obviously not meant to address accidental discharges. EOTE Apr 2013 #75

You're the one who spent most if the time complaining about guns in the home Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #78

Christ, there are a multitude of issues, do you not really understand that? EOTE Apr 2013 #81

A magazine limit wouldn't have helped ANY tragedy or so few as to be Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #84

Are you fucking kidding me? Lanza fire 150+ shots! EOTE Apr 2013 #86

Maybe you should learn to lead from the front Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #88

So you're going to change the topic once again? EOTE Apr 2013 #90

No, that is the topic, by your own declaration: a callous disregard for other people Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #93

I treat inferior arguments as inferior. EOTE Apr 2013 #95

You call people "stupid" and "cultists" and "nutters" for pointing out something is Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #96

I call nutters nutters because they care more about their toys than they do lives. EOTE Apr 2013 #97

"You think that limiting magazine capacity is pointless, but the facts say that it will save lives." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #99

In Newtown it could have saved the bulk of them. EOTE Apr 2013 #100

"The bulk of them"? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #101

He fired 150+ rounds! EOTE Apr 2013 #102

152 rounds in (roughly) 5.5 minutes Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #103

6 kids escaped just while he jammed. EOTE Apr 2013 #105

In other words, you made shit up to fit your worldview DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #89

I posted examples of staged and non-staged photos, so I have a reasonable supposition Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #98

I wonder if Nancy Lanza would have said the same thing - he's "pretty well-versed DrDan Apr 2013 #26

But those kids have incredible knowledge of guns when they die before reaching their teens. EOTE Apr 2013 #29

Are you seriously equating every gun owner with Nancy Lanza? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #33

are you saying there are not other gun owners, like Nancy Lanza, who put lives of others at risk DrDan Apr 2013 #56

It's not my broad brush, it's yours. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #60

I never made the claim that all owners were like Nancy Lanza - you made that leap DrDan Apr 2013 #83

The why did you compare the safety and education prvoided to my SIL Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #85

not at all - and I never did as claimed - my point was DrDan Apr 2013 #87

Yeah, because you can kill people with a movie, a cartoon and fingers in the shape of an "L". Aristus Apr 2013 #23

I was replying to the statement "instilling an interest" Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #31

Heartbreaking Politicub Apr 2013 #4

So sad mgardener Apr 2013 #6

Just to clarify MichaelSoE Apr 2013 #12

Nice idea - but, in the nicest way I can suggest this, fix the text - its frustrating. jmg257 Apr 2013 #17

doh ... i'm on it ... also missed a comma ... brb MichaelSoE Apr 2013 #18

Can you specify where you got the pic? pintobean Apr 2013 #19

Just a search on google images "toddler with gun" MichaelSoE Apr 2013 #24

So, you just pulled a child's picture off the internet pintobean Apr 2013 #28

It's already on the internet. EOTE Apr 2013 #30

Yes, someone did something stupid pintobean Apr 2013 #32

If it was a child I loved, he/she wouldn't have had a gun in the first place. EOTE Apr 2013 #34

Follow the links... sarisataka Apr 2013 #35

TinEye takes it to a Russian site pintobean Apr 2013 #36

Yes, and that's the youngest looking 5 yr old I've ever seen. JimDandy Apr 2013 #16

I was thinking the same thing! Lol! I have certain (not worth $$ skills) IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #76

It's just a big joke to most gun nuts! mercymechap Apr 2013 #7

And the likelihood of that actually happening SheilaT Apr 2013 #8

Not all gun owners are The Wizard Apr 2013 #9

This is a powerful anti gun message! mountain grammy Apr 2013 #11

Note in the upper left the chin of the adult supposedly supervising her. Note finger on the trigger. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #13

When I was a kid I saw my dad's colt .38 and even handled it NightWatcher Apr 2013 #14

Miko Andres Fla_Democrat Apr 2013 #21

I hope that is photoshopped. If not it is child abuse. yellowcanine Apr 2013 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #38

If only OUR children had such a healthy respect for the 2nd amendment. EOTE Apr 2013 #51

"Ginning Up Fear" Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #59

That little girl should be placed into custody of child protective services Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #79

not commenting on this photo Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #108