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Th1onein

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110. Big pharma doesn't own all research results, OR govern how it turns out always....
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 07:42 PM
Apr 2013

PubMed is your friend. Read the research, order the full articles and read them, as well. Our tax funded AND private research institutions put out some decent research, although that, too, has been contaminated by big pharma and big money. You have to use your head, and you have to read A LOT on any one topic. If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. If it makes logical sense, it's probably got some truth to it.

The research I'm talking about has stood the test of time, and has been replicated many, many times. It's some basic shit. Like I said, oxidative phosphorylation, glycolysis, and the Kreg's cycle has been around a long, long time; it's Biology 101. Young Ko's research/drug has been tested in Germany, on an actual patient: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10863-012-9417-4#

Only you and your loved ones are going to pay the price for your ignorance. You can no longer depend solely on your doctor for having the answers; you must learn to utilize the great gifts of the internet and PubMed to educate yourself.

And, a word to the wise about "natural" compounds. Just because they're "natural" doesn't mean they won't hurt you or kill you. Cyanide is "natural," too. Many compounds that we currently take as pharmaceuticals are based on "natural" compounds; many natural compounds have been synthesized by pharmas. And, there are MANY, MANY companies out there with no decency whatsoever, just waiting to take your money for the empty promises of "natural" compounds. Some of these products have absolutely not even a trace of the compound that they are touting. Some have just a trace, and that's all.

There was once a company that touted an ingredient in lima beans that was supposed to keep you from metabolizing carbohydrates. They even referenced a research article on the topic. What they didn't tell you was the the mice in the research article took the pure form of the compound (which wasn't what you got in the powdered lima bean capsules they were selling) and the mice's rectums ruptured. One hell of a price to pay to lose a little weight, wouldn't you say?

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my moher was at that point totally unconscious and died later that day but it was the CTyankee Apr 2013 #83
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how do you research it? shireen Apr 2013 #106
Big pharma doesn't own all research results, OR govern how it turns out always.... Th1onein Apr 2013 #110
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