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MadHound

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60. Wanting to defend oneself is not "paranoia".

Thu Apr 4, 2013, 11:25 PM

Apr 2013

There are thousands upon thousands of instances where a gun owner defended themselves from harm. There are many, many people who live where police help is not just minutes, but many, many minutes away, though frankly unless a cop is accompanying you throughout your day, they will simply not be there when something bad goes down, but only come by later to clean up the mess.

Sorry, but I can't buy into the notion of disallowing somebody to own a gun, simply because they want it for self defense. Regulate the type of gun a person has, how many bullets the magazine can hold, who can purchase a gun, and how transparent gun ownership must be, I have no problem with that. But handing down blanket reasons for not allowing a person to own a gun is foolish, like all such blanket restrictions are.

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Some people were upset by my earlier proposal [View all] dsc Apr 2013 OP

Yes. It was hidden by a jury. MineralMan Apr 2013 #1

juries sometimes do the wrong thing dsc Apr 2013 #2

That jury did not. MineralMan Apr 2013 #3

i think they did dsc Apr 2013 #4

All 5 of them? brooklynite Apr 2013 #47

yeah all 5 dsc Apr 2013 #51

Not on this case. This time the majority nailed it and you blew it. demwing Apr 2013 #58

5 out of 6 was 83% brooklynite Apr 2013 #65

wah-wah, boo fucking hoo. (jury results here) appal_jack Apr 2013 #67

link, for context Electric Monk Apr 2013 #9

No It Does Not ProgressiveJarhead Apr 2013 #31

Ok, but you agree they are very similar while not quite identical, which was my main point. Electric Monk Apr 2013 #33

IDK why you brought it up. They're both WMD, inapproriate for civilian use. freshwest Apr 2013 #44

I brought it up because someone was going to sooner or later, and I wanted to get it over with. nt Electric Monk Apr 2013 #56

Ah, okay. n/t freshwest Apr 2013 #61

Who Are You Calling A Gun Nut? ProgressiveJarhead Apr 2013 #50

Clearly, you don't have to be packing this exact moment . . . MrModerate Apr 2013 #70

And this argument, whenever raised . . . MrModerate Apr 2013 #55

No. It Is Relevant ProgressiveJarhead Apr 2013 #59

I'll resist a "bite me" type of response . . . MrModerate Apr 2013 #69

Exactly. Thanks for explaining it that way. freshwest Apr 2013 #62

That Was a Sorry Explanation. ProgressiveJarhead Apr 2013 #64

We Are For Gun Control ProgressiveJarhead Apr 2013 #66

What proposal? TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #5

It is a hidden thread dsc Apr 2013 #6

self delete - TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #8

yet somehow I found it Electric Monk Apr 2013 #10

sorry I thought that non star readers couldn't read hidden threads dsc Apr 2013 #14

Wow just wow... Serve The Servants Apr 2013 #49

It could be described as "Second Amendment Games" I suppose Fumesucker Apr 2013 #7

Something to the effect executing the children of those who oppose gun control, it appears. Link: freshwest Apr 2013 #63

Your earlier post was spot on. baldguy Apr 2013 #11

"W" did it, with the children of others. n/gt TheCowsCameHome Apr 2013 #13

Spot on? sarisataka Apr 2013 #15

Children are being executed already, if you haden't noticed. Gun owners seem to be OK with that baldguy Apr 2013 #17

You have missed that many of us sarisataka Apr 2013 #20

And you must have missed the majority of self-identified gun owners baldguy Apr 2013 #26

The majority.... sarisataka Apr 2013 #32

Then, how come I'm always trying to stop "sensible gun owners" from chopping my head off baldguy Apr 2013 #39

Indeed some do crawl from under their bridge sarisataka Apr 2013 #42

If they "seem" that way to you... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #23

yeah they are dsc Apr 2013 #25

Somehow I doubt you'd be willing to apply that statement to everyone that it fits. beevul Apr 2013 #30

I have no problem with updating school security dsc Apr 2013 #37

"when you have the power to do something" Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #40

The earlier post... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #19

+ I have yet to see a gun owner who favors the ability to form a militia say diddly-squat about patrice Apr 2013 #24

I think the word you're looking for is "terrorism". baldguy Apr 2013 #27

Nope. You'd have to see the young adults decked out in gangsta garb, here in cupcake land, patrice Apr 2013 #29

We are a 'consumer' society gone crazy. Guns aren't considered as less than what they are: WMD. freshwest Apr 2013 #75

This proposal is a little more reasonable UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #12

I have been sober longer than du has been in existance dsc Apr 2013 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author bahrbearian Apr 2013 #18

Keep up the good work. You have a friend in this juror if I'm ever called to serve on your posts. nt Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #21

thanks dsc Apr 2013 #22

Lettuce tblue Apr 2013 #28

LOL, I guess you want another one locked. n-t Logical Apr 2013 #34

So what is your proposal, MadHound Apr 2013 #35

neither country bans all guns dsc Apr 2013 #38

Do you agree with both those countries that you can't purchase or own such a gun as you mention MadHound Apr 2013 #41

To purchase a weapon in Australia . . . MrModerate Apr 2013 #53

Wanting to defend oneself is not "paranoia". MadHound Apr 2013 #60

In Australia, it's not a blanket ban . . . MrModerate Apr 2013 #68

Why single-shot rifles but not single-shot pistols? petronius Apr 2013 #54

Why should you apologize? Sharpie Apr 2013 #36

and you are advocating for death now dsc Apr 2013 #48

no it isnt Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #77

Jonathon Swift is that you??? rwsanders Apr 2013 #43

Your post above makes sense and characterizes the issue appropriately . . . MrModerate Apr 2013 #45

Other thread was OTT, I suggest you move on. Your points here are good ones. freshwest Apr 2013 #46

Your thread was rightfully hidden obxhead Apr 2013 #52

I really don't see what the big deal is about with either of your posts. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #57

Your Posit is a little thin. Talk to the Swiss. cliffordu Apr 2013 #71

the swiss require back round checks dsc Apr 2013 #72

Unless they have recently banned automatic weapons among cliffordu Apr 2013 #73

The OE post isn't a little thin obxhead Apr 2013 #74

actually it is about only one call to violence being seen as disgusting dsc Apr 2013 #76

George Bush thought the same way... Niceguy1 Apr 2013 #78

Actual gun dealers do keep inventories, FYI. nt Deep13 Apr 2013 #79

Why does one more have to die from the insanity of guns/bullets in the street ala Zimmerman? graham4anything Apr 2013 #80