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84. If you had told me 25 yrs. ago that a Dem. President could do such a thing...

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Fri Apr 5, 2013, 09:30 AM

Apr 2013

I would have called you a lunatic.

I think this is a disgrace.

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President Obama will formally propose cuts to Social Security and Medicare [View all] dajoki Apr 2013 OP

Shameful move. morningfog Apr 2013 #1

yes it is. our only hope is that enough republicans will be recalcitrant cali Apr 2013 #10

Is that what our hopes lie on? dajoki Apr 2013 #15

I'm afraid so. Boehner, by the way, HAS rejected this exact proposal in cali Apr 2013 #47

Sad, very sad dajoki Apr 2013 #50

He didn't just reject it, he rejected it in a manner showing Babel_17 Apr 2013 #182

It will not stop here, R's will dismantle SS a RKP5637 Apr 2013 #49

It's Obama, not Republicans, who is proposing this. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #96

+1 nashville_brook Apr 2013 #132

To me, we are living now through the end of an experiment in democracy, and it's damn clear the RKP5637 Apr 2013 #159

Agree. They are striping the bones of the lower classes with impunity. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #178

They always go after the weakest, the youngest and the oldest. They are easy targets. As they RKP5637 Apr 2013 #179

Looks that way. And the oligarchs have the media tied in knots. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #208

google "retirement crisis" and read up Skittles Apr 2013 #220

Thank you. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #223

They've had their foot in the door before and had it slammed shut in their faces by sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #113

It's damn disgusting! And what does one do now ... this was supposed to be our party, but anymore RKP5637 Apr 2013 #158

WTF are you saying? dotymed Apr 2013 #115

Very well said!!! I've watched this country disintegrate over my lifetime I would love to see RKP5637 Apr 2013 #151

Correct...Somehow, someway, I believe this was planned..You've heard "It took Nixon to go to China"? whathehell Apr 2013 #149

I think the R's and D's talk a lot more than we in the weeds are led to believe by MSM. It's all RKP5637 Apr 2013 #156

Yes, I think so too. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #166

They've turned him down on this so far. kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #135

The republican meme airplaneman Apr 2013 #164

Shameful spin! nt kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #163

Time to invest in catfood futures IDemo Apr 2013 #2

Yes, compromise now = cave in. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #67

U thought that big campaign circle was an 'O'? It was the cave entrance!! on point Apr 2013 #112

That's about it ... the strong no no no ... and now this. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #155

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The last time I felt this kicked in the teeth was when Bush stole the election in 2004. forestpath Apr 2013 #4

Yes, it feels just like that dajoki Apr 2013 #7

The last time I felt this kicked in the teeth.. pangaia Apr 2013 #46

Could've *sworn* we had re-elected a Democrat... AzDar Apr 2013 #5

I remember something like that too. The USSR never learned that to have a one party state byeya Apr 2013 #19

Yea, he fooled me also. pangaia Apr 2013 #57

I thought Obama was supposed to wear conservative hate as a badge of honor? n/t Beartracks Apr 2013 #60

Morning Joe is loving it. The Link Apr 2013 #6

WE should all be worried... dajoki Apr 2013 #9

It's time to March on Washington bigdarryl Apr 2013 #8

Marches to Washington has been neutered. zeemike Apr 2013 #39

I wish you wouldn't use acronyms PTB? can't figure that one out. YOHABLO Apr 2013 #216

I am sorry...that is rude and lazy. zeemike Apr 2013 #217

???? hard to believe...nt... Stuart G Apr 2013 #11

chained cpi, means testing and no gun control legislation DrDan Apr 2013 #12

Hopefully a lot because the reason this crap is happening is we still have a Republican controlled Maraya1969 Apr 2013 #17

well - control of the Senate and Harry will not put a gun control bill up for a vote DrDan Apr 2013 #20

There is always SOME excuse demwing Apr 2013 #37

Somehow I just gave up on the repub-controlled House thingy.. pangaia Apr 2013 #58

i believe the democrats controlled the house and senate after the 2008 election. you guys HiPointDem Apr 2013 #75

K&R !!! Exactly !!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #80

Do you remember everything they got done in 2008-2009? Maraya1969 Apr 2013 #167

i remember the bankster bailout and the laundry list of minor stuff that kept being posted HiPointDem Apr 2013 #196

Health Care Reform? And here is a list from 2008-2009 from The Maraya1969 Apr 2013 #202

No. Health INSURANCE reform. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #212

The Republican controlled house is now writing his budgets? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #78

except daa Apr 2013 #114

LOL pmorlan1 Apr 2013 #140

Was gun control an issue in last year's election? Freddie Stubbs Apr 2013 #59

no - I phrased that pooorly DrDan Apr 2013 #123

Agreed; agreed; and agreed. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #213

Another big disappointment samplegirl Apr 2013 #13

Can they reverse this if it passes and we get a Democratic congress in 2014? Maraya1969 Apr 2013 #14

they could, but they won't. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #18

I think President Obama has just ensured we won't get a Democratic congress in 2014. forestpath Apr 2013 #23

He did that with Obamacare. Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #25

He sure has Glitterati Apr 2013 #111

I can't help but agree with you .. it's all about being 1st black president ... then YOHABLO Apr 2013 #218

BINGO we have a winner eom daa Apr 2013 #118

Well if you keep thinking like that we won't. Maraya1969 Apr 2013 #168

My THINKING has nothing to do with it. It's Obama's ACTIONS that are the problem. forestpath Apr 2013 #169

Well it worked like a charm the first time. He played them like a fiddle. Maraya1969 Apr 2013 #204

how well what played out? Skittles Apr 2013 #224

Under the bus we go Faygo Kid Apr 2013 #16

I often find it hard to get excited and jump up RKP5637 Apr 2013 #62

oh, but just imagine what romney would have done! get prosense out here to explain it to HiPointDem Apr 2013 #21

Romney would be terrified to try after chimpy proposed daa Apr 2013 #120

romney was just a plant to guarantee obama's reelection. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author LondonReign2 Apr 2013 #144

I think even she recognizes that this is wrong progressoid Apr 2013 #150

Rmoney would have had a Republican congress treestar Apr 2013 #170

Surely someone will be here soon to explain this away Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #22

And it will be immediately rejected by the Republicans tridim Apr 2013 #24

So, we can Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #27

If you're a simpleton, then yes you can boil it down to that. tridim Apr 2013 #28

I-21 Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #33

I just don't trust the guy any more. pangaia Apr 2013 #61

This post inspired me Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #143

HA! blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #183

Not at all sure about that, and, in any case, he's got a lot of guts "bargaining" with our money whathehell Apr 2013 #32

Does anyone still believe this man is a democrat? blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #184

A majority of people let him know they don't want this - ignored Dragonfli Apr 2013 #63

+1 HiPointDem Apr 2013 #68

Do you not understand that Republicans say no to EVERYTHING the admin proposes? tridim Apr 2013 #77

This sets a dangerous precedent, regardless of what the Repubs do. nt Chef Eric Apr 2013 #89

Yes it does... dajoki Apr 2013 #154

Obama's Catfood: blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #185

the people have clearly stated they don't want these cuts HE IS CHAMPIONING Dragonfli Apr 2013 #92

DINObama, DINOClinton(s), DINOsorry excuses, third way sellouts, and... Dryvinwhileblind Apr 2013 #26

Yup..This is why, IMO, we need to reject any more DINO Candidates for President whathehell Apr 2013 #148

I understand what you are saying, but silly me, I had thought that Obama was a progressive totodeinhere Apr 2013 #174

Well, I might have to agree with your self description, as I never thought he was a progressive. whathehell Apr 2013 #176

Alternate headline- Snarkoleptic Apr 2013 #29

More like push Grandma off the cliff. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #186

Another rug being pulled from under my feet. liberal N proud Apr 2013 #30

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The CPI is aleady rigged to UNDER-estimate inflation. "Chained CPI" is THEFT. Faryn Balyncd Apr 2013 #31

SS operates on a 1% overhead. The under-reported real inflation was part of the deal in the 1980s byeya Apr 2013 #40

BINGO ! pangaia Apr 2013 #66

Not yet. I have to hit other threads to fill my card Capt. Obvious Apr 2013 #95

""Chained CPI" is THEFT. " G_j Apr 2013 #86

In this mornings paper is an article that the President says madokie Apr 2013 #34

no cuts - but means testing to insure the middle class gets to share pain with the wealthy DrDan Apr 2013 #38

I didn't see any mention of that either madokie Apr 2013 #43

If you read the thread closely it's Obama bashing AND Democrat bashing. tridim Apr 2013 #53

Sure it is and thats what I'm trying to bring out madokie Apr 2013 #74

so Obama is not proposing chained CPI and means testing? DrDan Apr 2013 #129

Every time I've seen him speak and or read what he says madokie Apr 2013 #136

Actually there have been cuts to Medicare eilen Apr 2013 #116

what is your 1 800 psychic number? You have knowledge of the future Dragonfli Apr 2013 #119

from the link in the OP DrDan Apr 2013 #128

fro the link in the OP DrDan Apr 2013 #127

kr HiPointDem Apr 2013 #35

Fuck him. Cobalt Violet Apr 2013 #36

Despicable game of chicken with peoples lives and livelihoods. eom littlemissmartypants Apr 2013 #41

Exactly!!! And so many are out of sight, out of RKP5637 Apr 2013 #76

This is really disappointing. DanTex Apr 2013 #42

Social security Russd Apr 2013 #44

And like clockwork the piggyback trolls show up to round out the daily bash Obama/Dems thread. tridim Apr 2013 #48

Start an Obama photo thread. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #187

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Welcome to DU. Your proposal sucks. cali Apr 2013 #52

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But..."we the People" made it clear what we wanted last election...didn't we? maddiemom Apr 2013 #81

"we the people" only includes rich fucks now Skittles Apr 2013 #221

I wouldn't vote John2 Apr 2013 #90

Your proposal to vote for a Third Party does nothing more than assure a Republican victory. olegramps Apr 2013 #108

Dangerous proposition but understandable Left Turn Only Apr 2013 #121

Nattering Nabobs of Negativity IDemo Apr 2013 #51

2016 Russd Apr 2013 #126

I don't know WTF political party I belong to RKP5637 Apr 2013 #54

That's how I feel newfie11 Apr 2013 #93

See reply #147. That's what I'm going to start doing too. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #161

I belong to the Progressive Democrats of America..I only give to Progressive Dems and whathehell Apr 2013 #147

Thanks for this reply! I'm going to do the same. I'm fed up with the current direction! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #160

Wow...You're very welcome! n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #165

But.. but ... but... 99Forever Apr 2013 #55

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #64

Yeah, right... 99Forever Apr 2013 #71

There have been no cuts to SS and Medicare.. tridim Apr 2013 #79

So... 99Forever Apr 2013 #83

LOL no, what he said was far trickier than that, he said that the cuts Obama has proposed Dragonfli Apr 2013 #103

The mean ol' GOP forced Obama to cut SS blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #188

Well tridim.. 99Forever Apr 2013 #94

Troll went bye-bye. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #189

"unless the Republicans do it" dajoki Apr 2013 #97

I think this tool expects us to believe the absurd, follow his logic Dragonfli Apr 2013 #106

You know what really irks me? 99Forever Apr 2013 #125

+1 Dragonfli blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #190

Traitor ! pangaia Apr 2013 #56

WORSE THAN BUSH!!!!1111 tridim Apr 2013 #69

For the sake of compromising with republicans he would. Cobalt Violet Apr 2013 #109

+1 and hugs. Same boat as you. 840high Apr 2013 #205

Thanks for the hugs. :>) pangaia Apr 2013 #211

Obama has moved to the right each year since election in 08 n2doc Apr 2013 #65

And for the trillionth post of this on DU: IDemo Apr 2013 #70

"The truth of the matter is UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #72

Obama: "I agree with Romeny. I agree with Romney. I agree with Romney. I agree with Romney." blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #191

It's still the third rail. Massage the definitions all you like, but a cut is a cut. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #73

Obama's CPI. It's not a cut. It's "enhanced math." blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #192

Mmhmm, and that black stuff in Arkansas isn't oil. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #197

Disgusting...absolutely disgusting kdmorris Apr 2013 #82

If you had told me 25 yrs. ago that a Dem. President could do such a thing... Chef Eric Apr 2013 #84

he kisses conservative ass on every important issue every time bowens43 Apr 2013 #85

He is assuring himself 840high Apr 2013 #206

For those who sat home in 2010 MissNostalgia Apr 2013 #87

You're talking to the wrong group. Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #100

Exactly RILib Apr 2013 #102

Exactly treestar Apr 2013 #171

Well when do we pull out os South Korea or scrap ALL Treaty Obligations? gordianot Apr 2013 #91

I guess he doesn't really want Democrats to win in 2014. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #98

That's the plan for 2014. And 16. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #193

Rich men who will never need SS Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #99

his legacy includes drones, afghanistan, not prosecuting war crimes, geithner,helping wall street xiamiam Apr 2013 #145

So glad he had time to do this; thought he was busy queued up to approve the keystone pipeline RILib Apr 2013 #101

There are enough John2 Apr 2013 #110

By the time... dajoki Apr 2013 #175

I really don't understand this. AsahinaKimi Apr 2013 #104

OR, "Obama leaves closet, admits he was repuke all along" on point Apr 2013 #105

He has already confessed to being an "80's style Republican". NorthCarolina Apr 2013 #142

+1000 blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #194

Turning a blind eye to corporate sponsored tea party rally's NorthCarolina Apr 2013 #210

Terrible!!! nt valerief Apr 2013 #107

He doesn't expect Republicans to bite. Then there will be the inevitable House/Senate compromise. randome Apr 2013 #124

I am one of those that would be affected by chained CPI, and I am FURIOUS at Obama. loudsue Apr 2013 #130

The hyperbole and low information reeks in this thread. nt Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #131

And, as usual, your post rises above it all. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #195

Not to worry... Obama promises he won't sign NDAA........ lib2DaBone Apr 2013 #133

Terrible, terrible move Mr. President. What a slap to all who believed in you AllyCat Apr 2013 #134

I think the safety net John2 Apr 2013 #137

Shameful! pmorlan1 Apr 2013 #138

And the GOP get to blame him for it. Orsino Apr 2013 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #141

The Democratic Party JEB Apr 2013 #146

The president has made a fool of himself with this, and bonner already rejected it. After 6 years still_one Apr 2013 #152

Social Security Does Not Contribute One Nickel to the Deficit! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #153

So much for all that hopey changey stuff. KamaAina Apr 2013 #157

No money for social security but we'll manage to find $700 billion to fight North Korea. Initech Apr 2013 #162

I never thought that I would live to see a Democratic president cut these two programs. It leaves an jwirr Apr 2013 #172

He surrenders without protest at every opportunity Generic Other Apr 2013 #173

I think he is just not what he presented himself to be...a democrat..nt xiamiam Apr 2013 #177

Shameful. Deceptive. Party Killing. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #180

It's time for progressives in the media to demand to know Babel_17 Apr 2013 #181

Good cop to bad cop: psss ...hey lets play with SS so we can ignore the gun control thingy... L0oniX Apr 2013 #198

anyone think he isn't DLC now? JCMach1 Apr 2013 #199

and the gop will reject them. not because they want to protect ss. they hate him. spanone Apr 2013 #200

It's the right move jsr Apr 2013 #201

Seriously, if they cut SS, we may loose our house or have to let our pets die. Awful. glinda Apr 2013 #203

Is this still, what did they call it..."anticipatory outrage" or some silly thing? Bonobo Apr 2013 #207

This is Why the rePIGs Didn't Steal Election 2012 tout_le_monde Apr 2013 #209

In the good cop / bad cop routine, aren't we supposed to have a good cop somewhere? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #214

What amuses me is the people here saying yeah its there but the Republicans won't accept it. Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #215

what else can the Groupies say??? Skittles Apr 2013 #222

"Additional taxes on the wealthy" ARE IRRELEVANT. THE POOR WILL STILL SUFFER under this. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #219