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21. a true democrat would fight the root of the cause and not the leaves...

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Fri Apr 5, 2013, 01:42 PM

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Mr. President--- True DEMs are pissed. [View all] trumad Apr 2013 OP

true progressives would find a way to get back a functional democracy not focus on one man uponit7771 Apr 2013 #1

That "one man" is attacking SS, and expecting people to not call him out on it ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #5

because there's no functional democracy....regards uponit7771 Apr 2013 #18

Oh but he can help putting ourt a SS cut meme... trumad Apr 2013 #6

"One man" made this decision...I hope his feet and lower legs have 3rd degree 'burns' HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #11

because he had nothing else to do? .... no, because there's no functional democracy. I agree with uponit7771 Apr 2013 #19

Screwing over the most vulnerable is neither reasonable nor courageous. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2013 #36

Oh the shame! You've apparently not heard of 4 dimensional chess before! AAO Apr 2013 #79

+1 walkerbait41 Apr 2013 #121

I disagree, I don't think Obama is trying to seem reasonable...he's flat out conceding HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #39

This was the one proposal the Republicans wanted Obama to make. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #80

If you arent a "true progressive" what are you? rhett o rick Apr 2013 #16

a true democrat would fight the root of the cause and not the leaves... uponit7771 Apr 2013 #21

The root of the cause is Obama's obsession with cutting programs to please Pete Peterson Dragonfli Apr 2013 #38

What programs has Obama cut? tridim Apr 2013 #45

He's not finished just yet but he has obsessively been threatening our elderly with these Dragonfli Apr 2013 #54

Don't give me any ideas meow2u3 Apr 2013 #91

What would be ironically delicious would be to Robin Hood his pampered ass Dragonfli Apr 2013 #94

Pete Peterson would be the first I'd go Robin Hood on meow2u3 Apr 2013 #98

And in the mean time cut benefits for our seniors? Why not increase benefits and look rhett o rick Apr 2013 #40

That's exactly the bottom line. AndyA Apr 2013 #65

I am still curious, what you consider yourself if not progressive? nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #41

Craven. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #66

+10000 treestar Apr 2013 #82

SHARED BLAME is not SHIFTED BLAME. Maven Apr 2013 #105

He deserves it. I told O of A don't bother sending me emails of SSBenefits are cut. upaloopa Apr 2013 #2

...at this point they are cutting off their noses to spit GOP faces and don't know it... uponit7771 Apr 2013 #3

Classic not seeing the forest for the trees tridim Apr 2013 #4

Oh I see--- trumad Apr 2013 #7

Snarf Autumn Apr 2013 #9

Yes, and you'll understand that when the Repubs reject the compromise.. tridim Apr 2013 #20

What if they don't? trumad Apr 2013 #35

They already have. tridim Apr 2013 #37

Boehner is so stupid ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #84

lol, just like the Bushies with Iraq. It's ALWAYS "wait another year and you'll see the genius". Marr Apr 2013 #89

We saw the genius about 4 hours ago when Boner did exactly what the President wanted. tridim Apr 2013 #90

Actually, I wasn't comparing Obama to Bush. Marr Apr 2013 #93

Oh My God, I just realized the poster you are talking to is Britney! Dragonfli Apr 2013 #103

LOL Marr Apr 2013 #104

WTF is he even bringing up SS? FDR would throw him to the GOP dogs. Now go on with yer worship. L0oniX Apr 2013 #125

So just to be clear.. LondonReign2 Apr 2013 #14

No. tridim Apr 2013 #17

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #34

Boner already rejected it this morning. tridim Apr 2013 #42

Bookmarking for the next round of footsie-playing with SS, to check... JHB Apr 2013 #78

And he's destroying the Democrats too Generic Other Apr 2013 #102

Is everything he says a lie or just stuff that make Democrats appear to be the party of SS cuts? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #43

+1000 G_j Apr 2013 #64

Never thought of that. He will offer to cut SS benefits to trick the Repubs.They will never suspect. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #46

It already worked, Boner rejected the plan. tridim Apr 2013 #48

Maybe the next step is to offer to privatize SS. You keep saying the voters want compromise. The rhett o rick Apr 2013 #52

No the next step is winning congress and then strenghthening SS and Medicare tridim Apr 2013 #56

He offered to cut benefits to scare the repubs. Just sayin next step is to threaten them w privatiza rhett o rick Apr 2013 #57

Exactly. And we can expect, since he called Kamala Harris �the best looking attorney general� jtuck004 Apr 2013 #68

I don't believe the public wants willy-nilly compromise from whomever will give in. HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #69

Nobody gave in, the GOP did exactly what Obama wanted them to do. tridim Apr 2013 #70

I tend to agree with you. timdog44 Apr 2013 #85

If you are right, this idea is going to backfire bigtime. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #88

Or he could have not put it in the budget in the first place. Javaman Apr 2013 #97

It's called "bluffing" in poker. tridim Apr 2013 #99

Just why is he playing poker with our SS trust fund, does he think it is his money? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #108

Nice to know that he feels comfortable with using our future Javaman Apr 2013 #120

LMFAO ...uhmm ok whatever floats yer boat. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #124

Here we go -- just like the Tea Party, we are starting to define what a "true" Dem is. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #8

A "true" Dem would not cut SS... trumad Apr 2013 #10

Exactly - what does the Democratic party stand for, if not for that?? forestpath Apr 2013 #13

"The Party" isn't really us. It's the political professionals and they gave up on principles. HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #25

No. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #15

Bullied? trumad Apr 2013 #22

I answered your question, and you didn't like the answer so you ask it again? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #109

look at this fucking thread... trumad Apr 2013 #113

"Threatened"? From pressure to hyperbole. Jesus Christ, trumad, take a pill. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #114

I'm not telling you shit.. trumad Apr 2013 #115

Thank you for backing off. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #117

Obama has not cut SS. tridim Apr 2013 #23

yet trumad Apr 2013 #24

Ever. tridim Apr 2013 #26

Ever? trumad Apr 2013 #28

Boner already rejected the plan. It's over. tridim Apr 2013 #44

I want some of what you're having... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #49

They had a super-majority for three weeks. tridim Apr 2013 #50

..and they got jack shit done... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #51

Ever heard of the ACA? tridim Apr 2013 #55

You mean the Gift to Health Insurance Companies Act? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #58

That isn't spin pal, that's a fact. tridim Apr 2013 #59

I said "the Democrats passed nothing"? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #63

You said "they can't get shit done" even with a three week long super-majority. tridim Apr 2013 #72

You think being the party of attempted SS cuts is going to help Dems in 2014? Marr Apr 2013 #92

Again, it's already over, the GOP lost. The Dems and the people won. tridim Apr 2013 #96

What is it, is Obama continually crying wolf with these offers or is he just a liar? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #47

The voice of reason in a chorus of hysteria. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #110

Nobody said he DID. They said he WOULD. nt Chef Eric Apr 2013 #122

I've already been ruled out as a Scotsman rucky Apr 2013 #111

Obama is probably glad we are pissed, but I hope this is giving SOME Democrats in Congress pause. forestpath Apr 2013 #12

You think he doesn't know this? frazzled Apr 2013 #27

Wow!!! trumad Apr 2013 #31

No , I think you should do what you're doing Capn Sunshine Apr 2013 #86

Exactly, Capn Sunshine n/t Cha Apr 2013 #100

It is rare for me to recommend a trumad post quinnox Apr 2013 #29

+1 me too. patrice Apr 2013 #33

Well,what do you expect when you Wellstone ruled Apr 2013 #30

He's making a generational war out of what SHOULD be about JOBS, not the deficit. nt patrice Apr 2013 #32

+! Got that right. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2013 #67

As long as we have money to give 67 Counties in Calif. 1 mil $ armored vehicles developed for Iraq - truedelphi Apr 2013 #53

And the funny thing is, Boehner ain't goin' for it. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #60

Too bad he doesn't give a shit what we think ... Myrina Apr 2013 #61

Yep... K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #62

Once nineteen50 Apr 2013 #71

K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #73

well we sure are florida08 Apr 2013 #74

AARP sent an Advocacy Alert Liberalynn Apr 2013 #75

And they should. I am so disappointed in him. southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #76

True Dems need to be pissed at themselves. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #77

I seriously doubt that statement. George II Apr 2013 #81

I expect he'd be glad to hear it. Third Way Democrats are all about steering the party away Marr Apr 2013 #83

+1 florida08 Apr 2013 #112

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #87

That's good, but the people who will decide all of this MineralMan Apr 2013 #95

Democrats will suppress voting for them with these actions RainDog Apr 2013 #101

There IS no federal government. There are only corporations and plutonomists, and those who do their Fire Walk With Me Apr 2013 #106

boooshie learned this the hard way and I am afraid that President Obama will to. I thought jwirr Apr 2013 #107

How do you define a "true" DEM? Two liberal Think Tanks have endorsed Chained CPI. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #116

You can't bother to name these 'liberal think tanks' and yet you demand they be spoken of kindly? Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #118

nope trumad Apr 2013 #127

Truman replied ... Babel_17 Apr 2013 #119

The NYT trys to reframe this into a left only thing ...fuck them! L0oniX Apr 2013 #123

Obama Deserves The Criticism - Selling Out Senior Citizens Will Never Win Support cantbeserious Apr 2013 #126