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Fri Apr 5, 2013, 04:18 PM

Apr 2013

True progressive would be working on getting the Republicans out of the house and senate in 2014.

But instead plenty of them fantasize about a new white knight hero dictatorial (but for good) President in 2016!

They want to pretend Congress has no power. And that the Courts have no power. That they are servants of the President.

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Mr. President--- True DEMs are pissed. [View all] trumad Apr 2013 OP

true progressives would find a way to get back a functional democracy not focus on one man uponit7771 Apr 2013 #1

That "one man" is attacking SS, and expecting people to not call him out on it ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #5

because there's no functional democracy....regards uponit7771 Apr 2013 #18

Oh but he can help putting ourt a SS cut meme... trumad Apr 2013 #6

"One man" made this decision...I hope his feet and lower legs have 3rd degree 'burns' HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #11

because he had nothing else to do? .... no, because there's no functional democracy. I agree with uponit7771 Apr 2013 #19

Screwing over the most vulnerable is neither reasonable nor courageous. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2013 #36

Oh the shame! You've apparently not heard of 4 dimensional chess before! AAO Apr 2013 #79

+1 walkerbait41 Apr 2013 #121

I disagree, I don't think Obama is trying to seem reasonable...he's flat out conceding HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #39

This was the one proposal the Republicans wanted Obama to make. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #80

If you arent a "true progressive" what are you? rhett o rick Apr 2013 #16

a true democrat would fight the root of the cause and not the leaves... uponit7771 Apr 2013 #21

The root of the cause is Obama's obsession with cutting programs to please Pete Peterson Dragonfli Apr 2013 #38

What programs has Obama cut? tridim Apr 2013 #45

He's not finished just yet but he has obsessively been threatening our elderly with these Dragonfli Apr 2013 #54

Don't give me any ideas meow2u3 Apr 2013 #91

What would be ironically delicious would be to Robin Hood his pampered ass Dragonfli Apr 2013 #94

Pete Peterson would be the first I'd go Robin Hood on meow2u3 Apr 2013 #98

And in the mean time cut benefits for our seniors? Why not increase benefits and look rhett o rick Apr 2013 #40

That's exactly the bottom line. AndyA Apr 2013 #65

I am still curious, what you consider yourself if not progressive? nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #41

Craven. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2013 #66

+10000 treestar Apr 2013 #82

SHARED BLAME is not SHIFTED BLAME. Maven Apr 2013 #105

He deserves it. I told O of A don't bother sending me emails of SSBenefits are cut. upaloopa Apr 2013 #2

...at this point they are cutting off their noses to spit GOP faces and don't know it... uponit7771 Apr 2013 #3

Classic not seeing the forest for the trees tridim Apr 2013 #4

Oh I see--- trumad Apr 2013 #7

Snarf Autumn Apr 2013 #9

Yes, and you'll understand that when the Repubs reject the compromise.. tridim Apr 2013 #20

What if they don't? trumad Apr 2013 #35

They already have. tridim Apr 2013 #37

Boehner is so stupid ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #84

lol, just like the Bushies with Iraq. It's ALWAYS "wait another year and you'll see the genius". Marr Apr 2013 #89

We saw the genius about 4 hours ago when Boner did exactly what the President wanted. tridim Apr 2013 #90

Actually, I wasn't comparing Obama to Bush. Marr Apr 2013 #93

Oh My God, I just realized the poster you are talking to is Britney! Dragonfli Apr 2013 #103

LOL Marr Apr 2013 #104

WTF is he even bringing up SS? FDR would throw him to the GOP dogs. Now go on with yer worship. L0oniX Apr 2013 #125

So just to be clear.. LondonReign2 Apr 2013 #14

No. tridim Apr 2013 #17

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #34

Boner already rejected it this morning. tridim Apr 2013 #42

Bookmarking for the next round of footsie-playing with SS, to check... JHB Apr 2013 #78

And he's destroying the Democrats too Generic Other Apr 2013 #102

Is everything he says a lie or just stuff that make Democrats appear to be the party of SS cuts? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #43

+1000 G_j Apr 2013 #64

Never thought of that. He will offer to cut SS benefits to trick the Repubs.They will never suspect. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #46

It already worked, Boner rejected the plan. tridim Apr 2013 #48

Maybe the next step is to offer to privatize SS. You keep saying the voters want compromise. The rhett o rick Apr 2013 #52

No the next step is winning congress and then strenghthening SS and Medicare tridim Apr 2013 #56

He offered to cut benefits to scare the repubs. Just sayin next step is to threaten them w privatiza rhett o rick Apr 2013 #57

Exactly. And we can expect, since he called Kamala Harris �the best looking attorney general� jtuck004 Apr 2013 #68

I don't believe the public wants willy-nilly compromise from whomever will give in. HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #69

Nobody gave in, the GOP did exactly what Obama wanted them to do. tridim Apr 2013 #70

I tend to agree with you. timdog44 Apr 2013 #85

If you are right, this idea is going to backfire bigtime. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #88

Or he could have not put it in the budget in the first place. Javaman Apr 2013 #97

It's called "bluffing" in poker. tridim Apr 2013 #99

Just why is he playing poker with our SS trust fund, does he think it is his money? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #108

Nice to know that he feels comfortable with using our future Javaman Apr 2013 #120

LMFAO ...uhmm ok whatever floats yer boat. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #124

Here we go -- just like the Tea Party, we are starting to define what a "true" Dem is. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #8

A "true" Dem would not cut SS... trumad Apr 2013 #10

Exactly - what does the Democratic party stand for, if not for that?? forestpath Apr 2013 #13

"The Party" isn't really us. It's the political professionals and they gave up on principles. HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #25

No. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #15

Bullied? trumad Apr 2013 #22

I answered your question, and you didn't like the answer so you ask it again? Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #109

look at this fucking thread... trumad Apr 2013 #113

"Threatened"? From pressure to hyperbole. Jesus Christ, trumad, take a pill. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #114

I'm not telling you shit.. trumad Apr 2013 #115

Thank you for backing off. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #117

Obama has not cut SS. tridim Apr 2013 #23

yet trumad Apr 2013 #24

Ever. tridim Apr 2013 #26

Ever? trumad Apr 2013 #28

Boner already rejected the plan. It's over. tridim Apr 2013 #44

I want some of what you're having... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #49

They had a super-majority for three weeks. tridim Apr 2013 #50

..and they got jack shit done... truebrit71 Apr 2013 #51

Ever heard of the ACA? tridim Apr 2013 #55

You mean the Gift to Health Insurance Companies Act? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #58

That isn't spin pal, that's a fact. tridim Apr 2013 #59

I said "the Democrats passed nothing"? truebrit71 Apr 2013 #63

You said "they can't get shit done" even with a three week long super-majority. tridim Apr 2013 #72

You think being the party of attempted SS cuts is going to help Dems in 2014? Marr Apr 2013 #92

Again, it's already over, the GOP lost. The Dems and the people won. tridim Apr 2013 #96

What is it, is Obama continually crying wolf with these offers or is he just a liar? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #47

The voice of reason in a chorus of hysteria. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #110

Nobody said he DID. They said he WOULD. nt Chef Eric Apr 2013 #122

I've already been ruled out as a Scotsman rucky Apr 2013 #111

Obama is probably glad we are pissed, but I hope this is giving SOME Democrats in Congress pause. forestpath Apr 2013 #12

You think he doesn't know this? frazzled Apr 2013 #27

Wow!!! trumad Apr 2013 #31

No , I think you should do what you're doing Capn Sunshine Apr 2013 #86

Exactly, Capn Sunshine n/t Cha Apr 2013 #100

It is rare for me to recommend a trumad post quinnox Apr 2013 #29

+1 me too. patrice Apr 2013 #33

Well,what do you expect when you Wellstone ruled Apr 2013 #30

He's making a generational war out of what SHOULD be about JOBS, not the deficit. nt patrice Apr 2013 #32

+! Got that right. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2013 #67

As long as we have money to give 67 Counties in Calif. 1 mil $ armored vehicles developed for Iraq - truedelphi Apr 2013 #53

And the funny thing is, Boehner ain't goin' for it. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #60

Too bad he doesn't give a shit what we think ... Myrina Apr 2013 #61

Yep... K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #62

Once nineteen50 Apr 2013 #71

K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #73

well we sure are florida08 Apr 2013 #74

AARP sent an Advocacy Alert Liberalynn Apr 2013 #75

And they should. I am so disappointed in him. southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #76

True Dems need to be pissed at themselves. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #77

I seriously doubt that statement. George II Apr 2013 #81

I expect he'd be glad to hear it. Third Way Democrats are all about steering the party away Marr Apr 2013 #83

+1 florida08 Apr 2013 #112

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #87

That's good, but the people who will decide all of this MineralMan Apr 2013 #95

Democrats will suppress voting for them with these actions RainDog Apr 2013 #101

There IS no federal government. There are only corporations and plutonomists, and those who do their Fire Walk With Me Apr 2013 #106

boooshie learned this the hard way and I am afraid that President Obama will to. I thought jwirr Apr 2013 #107

How do you define a "true" DEM? Two liberal Think Tanks have endorsed Chained CPI. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #116

You can't bother to name these 'liberal think tanks' and yet you demand they be spoken of kindly? Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #118

nope trumad Apr 2013 #127

Truman replied ... Babel_17 Apr 2013 #119

The NYT trys to reframe this into a left only thing ...fuck them! L0oniX Apr 2013 #123

Obama Deserves The Criticism - Selling Out Senior Citizens Will Never Win Support cantbeserious Apr 2013 #126