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129. thanks for getting it, tridem.. Michael Tomasky among others think

Fri Apr 5, 2013, 04:46 PM

Apr 2013

the President is Bluffing..

Obama Offers Republicans A Deal on Social Security That He Knows They’ll Never Accept by Jason Easley
http://www.politicususa.com/obama-offers-republicans-deal-social-security.html

I Doubt That Obama Really Expects a Grand Bargain With Republicans by Kevin Drum

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/04/i-doubt-obama-really-expects-grand-bargain-republicans

Greg Sargent: Liberals who oppose Chained CPI need to start thinking right now about how to answer this question: Which is worse, a Grand Bargain, or continued sequestration? It’s unclear to me that there is any other likely outcome. Either Republicans will decide to weather sequestration or they will agree to some kind of a deal to replace it. So liberals need a good policy answer to that question…..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/04/05/the-morning-plum-why-
obama-wants-a-grand-bargain/

Michael Tomasky: I Think Obama Is Bluffing

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/05/i-think-obama-is-bluffing.html

http://theobamadiary.com/

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Obama Budget Is Dismissed by G.O.P. and Attacked by Left [View all] octoberlib Apr 2013 OP

He sold us out and they mock him anyway. WHAT a "grand bargain." forestpath Apr 2013 #1

Who actually drafts and passes a budget and appropriation BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #4

+1 tridim Apr 2013 #9

Why don't you ask Obama since HE is the one negotiating with congress. forestpath Apr 2013 #147

He's been selling Carolina Apr 2013 #34

+1 n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #44

It's like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #2

It is, but you have Charlie and Lucy reversed. tridim Apr 2013 #11

I'm thinking that too. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #98

thanks for getting it, tridem.. Michael Tomasky among others think Cha Apr 2013 #129

Same sh*t, different day. GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #3

Such skill this Obama has! He sacrifices his entire reputation to gain nothing. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #5

Where does this leave the GOP? Solindsey Apr 2013 #6

He is NOT entitled Glitterati Apr 2013 #12

Yet you can afford an internet connection. Itchinjim Apr 2013 #13

How do you know that? Glitterati Apr 2013 #15

Yet you can afford Starbucks. Itchinjim Apr 2013 #68

I don't have to buy anything Glitterati Apr 2013 #70

He is probably a wealthy leach because he lives indoors and has a phone too Dragonfli Apr 2013 #22

Just making an observation about Itchinjim Apr 2013 #67

No, an ASSumption Glitterati Apr 2013 #72

I don't know you, but I apologize for the RW troll and it's FOX meme that you have it too easy. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #85

No need Glitterati Apr 2013 #90

I'm sorry, too. onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #126

HA! If they would just THINK about jobs Glitterati Apr 2013 #127

Circle, Itchinjim Apr 2013 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Glitterati Apr 2013 #117

Brilliant! like all of your cunning perceptive observations thus far Dragonfli Apr 2013 #119

Don't you have a hair fire to put out? Itchinjim Apr 2013 #123

One thing is clear, your hair can't be on fire, It is shoved to far up.... Dragonfli Apr 2013 #125

You made an observation, a judgement and promoted a Fox classic all in one post, Well Done! Dragonfli Apr 2013 #79

+1...nt SidDithers Apr 2013 #145

You do realize libraries have Internet for public use. The poster could live near a college, Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #102

Thanks for the lecture newbie. Itchinjim Apr 2013 #105

Anytime old timer Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #108

Well I ain't a newbie and......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #132

And her complaint that she can't afford meds Itchinjim Apr 2013 #136

I smoke e-cigs Glitterati Apr 2013 #137

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Why are you giving Congress a pass BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #14

Because they've done NOTHING yet Glitterati Apr 2013 #18

I see. You have no problem with Boehner and McConnell holding their collective breath until Skidmore Apr 2013 #27

It's HIS fucking proposal Glitterati Apr 2013 #29

Once again - research how a bill becomes a law. BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #36

He's playing with my LIFE Glitterati Apr 2013 #46

Do you understand that they are not going to accept anything, even Skidmore Apr 2013 #41

Do you understand this is LIVES he's using Glitterati Apr 2013 #45

And Rs are not betting on failure? Skidmore Apr 2013 #48

Beside the point Glitterati Apr 2013 #50

God, you're obtuse. Skidmore Apr 2013 #53

No, I'm not Glitterati Apr 2013 #55

I understand timdog44 Apr 2013 #51

He's GIVING AWAY the midterms Glitterati Apr 2013 #52

I disagree and hope you are wrong. timdog44 Apr 2013 #91

Didn't happen when he gave away Single Payer Glitterati Apr 2013 #93

I don't think he would have gotten a majority of Dems timdog44 Apr 2013 #114

We'll never know, will we? Glitterati Apr 2013 #118

He is doing no such thing BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #31

The HELL he's not Glitterati Apr 2013 #32

Watch CSPAN to learn how a bill (or budget) becomes a law. n/t BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #39

No need Glitterati Apr 2013 #54

Wrong BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #138

Good luck with that Glitterati Apr 2013 #139

2014 will not be like 2010 BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #143

Yeah, we'll see Glitterati Apr 2013 #144

Spouting "Blue Dogs" is a non-substantive response BumRushDaShow Apr 2013 #146

"I'm not thrilled with Obama's fiscal cliff proposal, but it's not a benefit cut" whathehell Apr 2013 #49

maaaaybe because it is HIS proposal, not theirs? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #24

Because this is the PRESIDENT'S budget were talking about now,... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #133

What Obama is doing is PROTECTING your lives from the wolves on the Right. Solindsey Apr 2013 #17

Joined by Nancy Pelosi Glitterati Apr 2013 #19

Protecting us by threatening seniors? becoming known as the party that wants to cut SS Dragonfli Apr 2013 #25

Boner JUST said he wants MORE cuts to SS and rejected Obama's proposal. Solindsey Apr 2013 #43

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Holy fucking bizzaro world. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #62

So sorry to learn of what you've been Carolina Apr 2013 #35

Thank you Glitterati Apr 2013 #38

You and I would hope that would be the case, but it doesnt look like it will. stevenleser Apr 2013 #28

At least the voters will know ... dawg Apr 2013 #7

^^^This^^^ truebrit71 Apr 2013 #10

well put, dawg Carolina Apr 2013 #40

"led by President Obama and Democrats" n2doc Apr 2013 #8

The media? The worst spin I've seen by far is right here on DU. tridim Apr 2013 #21

With the help of the media, the haters on both sides are getting what they dream about... kelliekat44 Apr 2013 #16

Take your pick in Apologists Bingo: 99Forever Apr 2013 #23

The media proposed cuts to SS? I thought it was Obama Dragonfli Apr 2013 #26

both sides of what aandegoons Apr 2013 #124

This was a serious mistake by President Obama and the administration. stevenleser Apr 2013 #20

On the contrary, it was a genius political move. One of the 99 Apr 2013 #33

So the dems are going to take to the podium.... NCTraveler Apr 2013 #47

No, they'll say they tried to compromise as the people wanted. tridim Apr 2013 #56

They tried to compromise what? NCTraveler Apr 2013 #58

The public wants generic compromise by a huge margin. tridim Apr 2013 #60

Seniors, who vote in large numbers, do not want social security.... NCTraveler Apr 2013 #66

Are you aware that most seniors vote Republican? tridim Apr 2013 #69

Not ALL Glitterati Apr 2013 #75

Obama just saved SS and Medicare. tridim Apr 2013 #78

Suuuuuurrrrre, he did Glitterati Apr 2013 #80

Seniors went for Romney 56 - 44. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #87

No, we need them all to vote for the party that supports SS and Medicare. tridim Apr 2013 #89

The party threatening to CUT SS and Medicare will not be seen as "supporting it" Dragonfli Apr 2013 #96

Yes, they are Glitterati Apr 2013 #92

As a non-senior I will not write any of you off. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #95

I'll understand it after it happens. When he makes an issue of their absolute obstruction. JHB Apr 2013 #86

Won't happen Glitterati Apr 2013 #94

I see that, you see that, but others always think the same movie... JHB Apr 2013 #97

Sadly, you're right. Glitterati Apr 2013 #104

You make a good point... onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #134

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Glitterati Apr 2013 #57

Keep dreaming G. tridim Apr 2013 #61

You'll see Glitterati Apr 2013 #64

What did he give away again? SS got cut? Medicare? What? tridim Apr 2013 #71

No it's not Glitterati Apr 2013 #73

We all need the ACA badly. tridim Apr 2013 #83

Yeah, I'm sorry Glitterati Apr 2013 #84

Whatever. tridim Apr 2013 #88

If you are a Senior on SS then you have Medicare notadmblnd Apr 2013 #99

Survivor benefits Glitterati Apr 2013 #100

You don't get survivor benefits unless you have minor children notadmblnd Apr 2013 #109

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PROOF Glitterati Apr 2013 #116

I didn't say you couldn't get partial benefits if you are 60 notadmblnd Apr 2013 #122

No, I did not lie. notadmblnd Apr 2013 #120

You are a liar Glitterati Apr 2013 #121

Calm down. notadmblnd Apr 2013 #135

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #140

I have a suspicion that there is not enough time in the day notadmblnd Apr 2013 #141

If it was theater, the Pres needs a new act demwing Apr 2013 #74

Same script he used when he gave away Single Payer. Glitterati Apr 2013 #76

I hope that is scarcasm....after this you might see the lowest Dem turnout for a midterm in a..... yourout Apr 2013 #131

"mistake"? or revelation? n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #65

It's not quite over yet. Toure' just said on MSNBC that octoberlib Apr 2013 #77

Looks like the GOP is at it again jmowreader Apr 2013 #30

Pretty clear that the president knows that the right will dismiss all offers... peace13 Apr 2013 #37

These hissy fits happen that often? Solindsey Apr 2013 #82

Not one word about how pissed they are that the Repthugs dismiss all... peace13 Apr 2013 #103

Honestly, I think it is because the hysterical people are posers notadmblnd Apr 2013 #101

Oh bull. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #107

So he's looking like a villain for nothing. Awesome strategy. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #106

Only looking like a villan to 20 percent peace13 Apr 2013 #148

"Attacked by Left" Deservedly so. 3rd Way triangulation is a loser. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #42

"Attacked by Left" No. Main stream Dems. Fucking NYT reframe shit. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #59

I know freaking Rethugs in my family who don't even support Chained CPI Liberalynn Apr 2013 #111

A man who walks in the middle of the road upaloopa Apr 2013 #81

Something very odd about him and the way he thinks. Peregrine Took Apr 2013 #112

And so ends another episode of Hair-on-Fire Undeground. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #115

He's a Phlem Apr 2013 #128

SS "reform" has been on his agenda since the beginning. Goes back to '97 and the Clintonites, who leveymg Apr 2013 #130