I know I've only been here since November but I've never seen anyone say "all men are rapists"

[Summer Hathaway]

34. And as we all know

if someone posted that women are selfish, women are gold-diggers, women are into S&M, women are untrustworthy without using qualifiers such as "a few" women, or "some" women, you wouldn't react to it, because you would accept that the OP was more important than your being offended.

There is no need for anyone to "trot out some puppet women" in order to demonstrate disagreement with you. There have been many women on this site who have consistently voiced that disagreement of their own accord, and will continue to do so.

You (and your colleagues) have been told repeatedly, in no uncertain terms, that your view of how women should conduct themselves and their relationships with men is NOT accepted by all women, nor is that view reflective of the goals of true feminism.

But rather than acknowledge and accept that disagreement being voiced by many women here, you instead dive into the deep end of the delusion pool, and come up with some BS about how those who disagree with you are merely "puppet women" who have been "trotted out" for the sole purpose of ridiculing you and your cohorts.

Where is your proof that there are "puppet women" in play here? Where are the facts to back up that assertion?

You have no such facts, just as you have no facts to support most of what you say here on a daily basis.

And while we're on the subject of facts, you might also consider the fact that there ARE some women who form part of the 'self-proclaimed feminists' contingent that DO become outraged on a consistent basis, and who DO hate men. Note that I said some women because I, unlike you, believe it important to qualify such statements when they are not meant to be taken as applicable to all.

Furthermore, I am basing my assessment of such women on their own words and the opinions they have expressed, and NOT on the skewed notion that ALL women are easily outraged man-haters, in the way that many of your colleagues promote the idea that ALL men do and/or say XYZ.

I have read some very eye-opening discussions in HoF of late, and often see posts about leaving DU because your group is so ill-treated here. I would imagine that the reason none of you ever do leave is because you've investigated other sites that you could potentially move to, and have realized that your brand of "feminism" wouldn't be any more widely accepted elsewhere than it is here.

Now, you can go ahead and debate everything I have said here. But as you do so, please be aware that the minute you stated that "they trot out some puppet women who will agree with every hateful thing they say about feminists, and say 'See, even women disagree with you'," you had already lost the argument.