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In reply to the discussion: Duped into voting for President Obama? [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)114. Wait
"or worse"
...how so? Clinton taxed Social Security benefits.
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Q3. Which political party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A3. The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.
The basic rule put in place was that up to 50% of Social Security benefits could be added to taxable income, if the taxpayer's total income exceeded certain thresholds.
The taxation of benefits was a proposal which came from the Greenspan Commission appointed by President Reagan and chaired by Alan Greenspan (who went on to later become the Chairman of the Federal Reserve).
The full text of the Greenspan Commission report is available on our website.
President's Reagan's signing statement for the 1983 Amendments can also be found on our website.
A detailed explanation of the provisions of the 1983 law is also available on the website.
Q4. Which political party increased the taxes on Social Security annuities?
A4. In 1993, legislation was enacted which had the effect of increasing the tax put in place under the 1983 law. It raised from 50% to 85% the portion of Social Security benefits subject to taxation; but the increased percentage only applied to "higher income" beneficiaries. Beneficiaries of modest incomes might still be subject to the 50% rate, or to no taxation at all, depending on their overall taxable income.
This change in the tax rate was one provision in a massive Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (OBRA) passed that year. The OBRA 1993 legislation was deadlocked in the Senate on a tie vote of 50-50 and Vice President Al Gore cast the deciding vote in favor of passage. President Clinton signed the bill into law on August 10, 1993.
(You can find a brief historical summary of the development of taxation of Social Security benefits on the Social Security website.)
http://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
Q3. Which political party started taxing Social Security annuities?
A3. The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.
The basic rule put in place was that up to 50% of Social Security benefits could be added to taxable income, if the taxpayer's total income exceeded certain thresholds.
The taxation of benefits was a proposal which came from the Greenspan Commission appointed by President Reagan and chaired by Alan Greenspan (who went on to later become the Chairman of the Federal Reserve).
The full text of the Greenspan Commission report is available on our website.
President's Reagan's signing statement for the 1983 Amendments can also be found on our website.
A detailed explanation of the provisions of the 1983 law is also available on the website.
Q4. Which political party increased the taxes on Social Security annuities?
A4. In 1993, legislation was enacted which had the effect of increasing the tax put in place under the 1983 law. It raised from 50% to 85% the portion of Social Security benefits subject to taxation; but the increased percentage only applied to "higher income" beneficiaries. Beneficiaries of modest incomes might still be subject to the 50% rate, or to no taxation at all, depending on their overall taxable income.
This change in the tax rate was one provision in a massive Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (OBRA) passed that year. The OBRA 1993 legislation was deadlocked in the Senate on a tie vote of 50-50 and Vice President Al Gore cast the deciding vote in favor of passage. President Clinton signed the bill into law on August 10, 1993.
(You can find a brief historical summary of the development of taxation of Social Security benefits on the Social Security website.)
http://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
Let's see, under Reagan benefits of $1,500 would see about $750 of that taxed. At 15 percent, that would be about $112.
Under Clinton, the taxable amount rose to $1,275. At 15 percent, that would be about $191, an increase in taxes of about $78.
Boehner is never going to agree to the President's proposal.
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Nope i was not duped into voting for Obama but really we did not have a choice.
Thinkingabout
Mar 2013
#2
But.but.but..he only did 99.5% of what we want - where's the other half %? Seriously, excellent...
George II
Apr 2013
#43
Sacrilege! You are only supposed to post positive spin in the altar threads!!!
Dragonfli
Apr 2013
#34
Some balsa, but to be fair the villains are made of straw, poppits of "haters"
Dragonfli
Apr 2013
#58
Went in fully informed. And, continuing to kick the asses of the haters who choose to be blind.
NYC_SKP
Mar 2013
#10
Barack Hussein Obama will go down as one of the greatest presidents this country has ever seen!!!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Mar 2013
#14
Unemployment dropped by 40% and GDP grew 9%+ per year during FDR's first term
MannyGoldstein
Mar 2013
#29
thanks for tacitly conceding the validity of my observation and remarks again
stupidicus
Apr 2013
#90
admissions as to your struggles with plain and simple english are welcomed as well
stupidicus
Apr 2013
#94
Not I. Unlike some, I can see both sides. To me, his positives are weighted by what he had to
patrice
Apr 2013
#36
Nope. I tagged him as just another 3rd Way politician when he promised to escalate the war
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2013
#52
I feel duped as hell. I heard him say with my own ears at a rally I attended that he
forestpath
Apr 2013
#55
Common mistake you made, not learning the the 3rd way euphemisms for cutting,
Dragonfli
Apr 2013
#62
Yes, in thirdwayspeak, "sacrifice" means it's the poor/middle class/elderly/sick who must suffer.
forestpath
Apr 2013
#65
Never felt duped. I'm as proud of him today as I was when he announced his first run.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2013
#77
Unfortunately I think he'll go down as another Bill Clinton - brilliant man, mediocre president.
nomorenomore08
Apr 2013
#107