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jmg257

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60. An iron clad guarantee? Like the 2nd and Heller & McDonald?

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 08:48 AM

Apr 2013

Don't know how much more iron clad you can get then the constitution, with SCOTUS backing.

Eta:
"The District’s total ban on handgun possession in the home amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of “arms” that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self-defense. Under any of the standards of scrutiny the Court has applied to enumerated constitutional rights, this prohibition – in the place where the importance of the lawful defense of self, family, and property is most acute – would fail constitutional muster."

I guess you could get another amendment passed, then know you have the true support of the people.

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They Just Grabbed My Neighbor's guns [View all] RobertEarl Apr 2013 OP

Because Faux "news" keeps telling them that is whats going to happen Drale Apr 2013 #1

Why do they say that? It's propaganda. Goebbels's Big Lie. nt patrice Apr 2013 #2

I find it best to ask one simple question before engaging in conversation with a GOPer: LVdem Apr 2013 #3

Just a quick question - LibertyLover Apr 2013 #40

No he hasn't... LVdem Apr 2013 #45

Because the bunker mentality sells weapons & ammo? DirkGently Apr 2013 #4

It's The Lie NRA perpetuates because they know Cha Apr 2013 #5

Wishful thinking. Scootaloo Apr 2013 #6

Makes sense. They're acting out a "brave" fantasy because they know... Beartracks Apr 2013 #10

Plant the lie... defacto7 Apr 2013 #7

They did it to me. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #8

Really? SheilaT Apr 2013 #9

So we have nothing to worry about. safeinOhio Apr 2013 #16

And where did I assert that as the reason for my ownership of firearms? Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #37

What prompted them to do such a thing? nt Javaman Apr 2013 #24

Curious as to what they said their reason was Marrah_G Apr 2013 #26

I was going through a divorce at the time, my then-wife thought that calling the police on me Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #36

Sounds like an awful ordeal Marrah_G Apr 2013 #38

It was a very rough time for all of us. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #41

the PD erred on the side of caution maxsolomon Apr 2013 #49

PD acted unlawfully with no basis for what they did. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #54

so, you got them back - did you miss a hunting trip in the interim or something? maxsolomon Apr 2013 #64

Cool story, bro'. Please proceed. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #39

I really don't care if you believe me or not. It is, in fact, a matter of public record. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #43

Doesn't it feel really cool to be all-knowing? DollarBillHines Apr 2013 #51

It happened after Katrina Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #11

Yeah, the president ordered that jmowreader Apr 2013 #15

Uh, no, premium Apr 2013 #22

I believe a local authority ordered it. Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #48

Divide and conquer then attack from the rear Herlong Apr 2013 #12

Way too many simpletons jambo101 Apr 2013 #13

What I find funny is Republicans grab their guns in fear of black home invaders,... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #14

You will ban guns to save 300 lives but not to save 30,000 lives? hack89 Apr 2013 #17

So you must agree that we need more stringent controls on handguns. Right? baldguy Apr 2013 #20

Just asking for a honest discussion hack89 Apr 2013 #21

Wouldn't capacity limits have an affect on SA handguns? jmg257 Apr 2013 #23

Technically yes. Realistically no hack89 Apr 2013 #25

A law like the SAFE Act in NY mandated that (just about) all mags with greater capacity then jmg257 Apr 2013 #27

It would not reduce gun deaths in any meaningful manner hack89 Apr 2013 #28

Of course criminals don't obey laws. But does that mean we remove the jmg257 Apr 2013 #29

You are missing the point of my original question hack89 Apr 2013 #30

I answered that. I pointed out that your point was flawed because "banning guns", jmg257 Apr 2013 #31

So how do magazine limits reduce suicides and typical murders? hack89 Apr 2013 #32

Again- I already answered that: jmg257 Apr 2013 #33

Those laws would be effective and I can support with the exception of registration hack89 Apr 2013 #34

Are you sure? I do not believe that to be the case. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #47

About 20,000 suicides a year - our suicide rate is nearly 3 time our murder rate. hack89 Apr 2013 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author Heidi Apr 2013 #18

Because they're paranoid losers leftynyc Apr 2013 #19

Because the gun lovers leave out the other part of the story like no_hypocrisy Apr 2013 #35

they will only grab the guns if someone is growing marijuana too. TeamPooka Apr 2013 #42

Capital letters on the STUPID. n/t Cleita Apr 2013 #44

It would be a good thing if it did. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #46

Yours is the honest approach hack89 Apr 2013 #53

May be honest, but extreme RobertEarl Apr 2013 #56

"It has been proven that controls work"? I do not believe that to be the case. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #57

Lets discuss banning guns hack89 Apr 2013 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author jmg257 Apr 2013 #59

So why are cities like Chicago fighting so desperately to keep their bans? hack89 Apr 2013 #61

Sorry Hack, darn iPad is multiple posting again... nt jmg257 Apr 2013 #62

Maybe get A new constitutional amendment...then you know you have the true support jmg257 Apr 2013 #63

An iron clad guarantee? Like the 2nd and Heller & McDonald? jmg257 Apr 2013 #60

There is something drastically wrong in America when... Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #52

Because first they need to find he has a joint on him. krispos42 Apr 2013 #55