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Shankapotomus

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83. As I responded to Squinch,

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:01 AM

Apr 2013

I don't know where the push back from some men on DU is coming from. Not only do the feminists I've encountered on DU seem to have a good understanding of the issue, they also, as you have illustrated, are perfectly amicable to acknowledging the role some unenlightened women play in perpetuating patriarchy and misogyny (not that they bare any special responsibility.) In addition, you've acknowledged evolved men do exist. I don't see a problem here (not that it's my prerogative, as a man, to rule on feminism's problems) other than the one coming from misogynists and those who don't understand feminism. Of course, there could be other variants of feminism at DU that present a far more intractable stance, it would be good to know yours and Squinch's were the more predominate tone.

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I know I've only been here since November but I've never seen anyone say "all men are rapists" [View all] Arcanetrance Apr 2013 OP

Absolutely Kalidurga Apr 2013 #1

the "all men" thing is what they use to derail any feminist leaning conversations they don't like... bettyellen Apr 2013 #2

That depressing I've yet to meet feminists any where in real life or here Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #3

Well, you missed iverglas by a few months. Dr. Strange Apr 2013 #4

Oh God, I remember iverglas LittleBlue Apr 2013 #5

My vote is with the "everyone" thing etherealtruth Apr 2013 #13

Yes, she did. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #28

I was wondering where she went madville Apr 2013 #80

Yes, she was Canadian. Dr. Strange Apr 2013 #87

That's funny. Go to Eugene Oregon and find hundreds. cliffordu Apr 2013 #29

I hear they also have a huge problem with white supremecists and serial killers! bettyellen Apr 2013 #36

Oregon. It's a whole 'nother planet. cliffordu Apr 2013 #37

i grew up in the So Bx, and frankly, that shit scares me!! bettyellen Apr 2013 #39

Not many White supremacists in my neck of the woods. cliffordu Apr 2013 #56

sorry I am doing the Vt/NH thing... LOL I'm not scared of Portland because I have Swag and Heather bettyellen Apr 2013 #58

I wondered why there were so many killers in Washington state treestar Apr 2013 #86

Really? polly7 Apr 2013 #10

I don't have to, Pol. It will become obvious to Arcane soon enough who the feminst attck squad are. bettyellen Apr 2013 #11

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #12

Authoritarian? You sound very confused, Pol. And baiting someone into breaking the rules is really bettyellen Apr 2013 #15

You said there were women here who only speak out because they're 'puppets'. polly7 Apr 2013 #18

You weren't aware that there are plenty of socks here? Well then, I AM educating you. ;-) bettyellen Apr 2013 #20

Your vitriol diminishes anything you might want to express etherealtruth Apr 2013 #27

Accusing people of "derailing" conversations seems a bit odd. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2013 #24

derailing has nothing to do with "authoritarianism". threads are expected to stay on topic bettyellen Apr 2013 #26

And as we all know Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #34

you seem to be confused, as I was stating what happens to when OTHER people post OPs, not myself bettyellen Apr 2013 #38

No, sweetie Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #43

I am not your Sweetie, SH. Pls stop this rude phony nice crap Observations are not orders- there bettyellen Apr 2013 #44

I believe your response Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #48

I guess you have me confused with some fool who is willing to fetch for you, . bettyellen Apr 2013 #54

Again your reading comprehension Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #55

I have absolutely no concerns about whether good DUers believe the veracity of my statements here. bettyellen Apr 2013 #62

In other words Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #66

luckily, people around here aren't half as stupid as you imagine them to be. bettyellen Apr 2013 #70

This appears to be a private argument, not discussion. juajen Apr 2013 #85

This is not an argument Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #89

I'm not a part of any group Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #82

Well written and spot on! Thank you! Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #76

Well stated. (n/t) MadrasT Apr 2013 #45

I'm pretty sure this all started when one woman decided to try to explain redqueen Apr 2013 #6

See the article is perfectly well reasoned and thought out Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #7

Yep, just more fake outrage. Same as with the 'holding doors open' idiocy. nt redqueen Apr 2013 #8

about a half dozen people here pretend they don't understand that.... even when it;s been explained bettyellen Apr 2013 #9

I wish they'd quit they're purposely dividing us at a time when we need to be united Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #14

sometimes patriarchy over rides our democratic beliefs. that is all. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #16

Well.... cliffordu Apr 2013 #32

I have to admit that I think that way. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #33

I won't accept any help from men I don't know. alarimer Apr 2013 #61

i havent seen any without the word "potential" in the mix so i have to agree nt SwampG8r Apr 2013 #17

Really your gonna go that route and mock this cause I missed a word Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #19

i apologize if it came across like that SwampG8r Apr 2013 #21

I apologize to you as well Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #22

wow, I am impressed! bettyellen Apr 2013 #41

That's cuz no one said that! Texasgal Apr 2013 #23

It's an extremely misunderstood point here. Nobody is saying all men are rapists. Dash87 Apr 2013 #25

It isn't misunderstood.. haikugal Apr 2013 #30

Yeppers, this crap is spammed all over the net, and there is no misunderstanding bettyellen Apr 2013 #40

I won't challenge that assertion Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #31

Or we could simply work more on equal rights for all. randome Apr 2013 #57

If the assertion is Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #60

No, but de-evolving or gene pool manipulations sound very time-consuming. randome Apr 2013 #63

Certainly more power to you Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #67

Let's review, again, the meaning of the phrase. This has been said many times before Squinch Apr 2013 #68

Who knew? Turns out we have ALL the power! All women need to do is stop those pesky wars! Squinch Apr 2013 #59

Not at all Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #64

If your saying my post says all men are potential rapists I'm afraid you missed the point. Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #69

Thanks for this. nt redqueen Apr 2013 #77

Because we expect more - and believe men are capable of more. KitSileya Apr 2013 #71

No argument there Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #73

If you REALLY want to understand what the problem is between Squinch Apr 2013 #74

Thanks for such a good response Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #75

Women are subject to the same stresses and variety as men. Squinch Apr 2013 #78

Awsome response. Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #81

Thank you for saying so! Squinch Apr 2013 #88

When a woman is involved in a relationship with a man, it is not a "reward". redqueen Apr 2013 #79

As I responded to Squinch, Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #83

It's common sense. Something sorely lacking in many discussions nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #35

Every DUer could potentially write "all men are rapists." aikoaiko Apr 2013 #42

because a random selection of the keyboard BainsBane Apr 2013 #52

The thread was hidden. baldguy Apr 2013 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #47

Only men that women don't find attractive are considered creepy and rapey... Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #49

what? BainsBane Apr 2013 #50

That's a load of crap about woman considering only the unattractive creepy and rapey Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #51

no, you have to BEHAVE creepy to get a rap as a creeper bettyellen Apr 2013 #72

"Potential" just means it's possible. Deep13 Apr 2013 #53

I'm a Feminist, and I love Men AnnieBW Apr 2013 #65

I am an ardent feminist etherealtruth Apr 2013 #84