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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
57. Two thoughts ...
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 10:19 AM
Apr 2013

First,

Given that he literally could frame Obama and any Dem who stood with him as "throwing seniors to the wolves"


The gop can and, no doubt will, attempt that framing ... and they are gonna get/getting a lot of help from the Left; but that narrative is a fail because Democrats can and will counter with the record ... that seniors are protected under every rumored CCPI plan. Go check the record with respect to every discussion/mention of the CCPI and you will find that President Obama (or his aides) have said any plan will exempt the poor, the elderly, the disabled and veterans.

secondly,

So given that....I can't for the life of me understand why Boehner isn't jumping for joy to accept this.


Could that be because he (unlike any/everyone opining on this "betrayal&quot his seen the specifics of the deal ... and I would guess it includes more than enhanced revenue and CCPI; but also, could include things like enhanced protection of the poor, the elderly, the disabled and veterans to include higher incomed people and/or removing the payroll cap.

Think about the strategy:

The American people are upset with the uncompromising in Congress and the Whitehouse (We know it is really only one half of Congress, but that is the electorate's peerspective) ... resident Obama's resonse is, and has been, to offer up (in very sketchy terms) the CCPI; something that has his base freaking out (even though no one knows what this will look like other than a "reduction of the increase in COLA" for some, but not the elderly, the poor, the disabled or veterans), in exchange for the gop adding revenue.

The electorate sees President Obama's willingness to compromise and the gop is not.

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Showing the Reeps, again, as the problem. riqster Apr 2013 #1
Or allowing the repubs to be "the party that saved Social Security" n2doc Apr 2013 #15
Well said Liberalynn Apr 2013 #44
+1 Fearless Apr 2013 #49
Every Democratic incumbent who does not speak up now in opposition to this should be primaried. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #61
How? "Boehner: Obama holding entitlement reform 'hostage' for tax hikes" TomCADem Apr 2013 #70
And most members of the Republican-controlled House voted for the Ryan Budget Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2013 #71
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #36
I can't believe Boehner isn't jumping with joy! PinkFloyd Apr 2013 #50
Republicans and Taxes.. RyanThomas Apr 2013 #54
BCHWDAELWWDASs Skittles Apr 2013 #64
Two thoughts ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #57
Maybe he's waiting for Obama to sweeten the pot even more. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #62
2 possibilities here Volaris Apr 2013 #69
If DU is any indication, that will NEVER be allowed to happen Number23 Apr 2013 #78
If I thought DU was any indication of anything Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #80
Yup, like I said, sequester is here to stay. JaneyVee Apr 2013 #2
I just wish that the President would stop playing enlightenment Apr 2013 #3
The President is playing russian roulette, but the gun barrel is pointed at the republicans bluestate10 Apr 2013 #6
I think you're right on. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #8
Hope you're right - enlightenment Apr 2013 #22
President Obama has been spot on to this point ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #37
Your "bad"? If you insist. enlightenment Apr 2013 #48
Wishful thinking lark Apr 2013 #31
Campaign be darned ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #38
The only problem with that is... PinkFloyd Apr 2013 #51
2008 sulphurdunn Apr 2013 #59
+1 KoKo Apr 2013 #18
Just do what Clinton did and let them bring the government to a stand still. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #4
I think the President is playing a game of chicken with republicans. A game, that in the bluestate10 Apr 2013 #7
It's a game of chicken with republicans that's scaring seniors and disabled people nt meow2u3 Apr 2013 #23
It's scaring seniors and people with disabilities ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #39
I'm one of the disabled persons being scared by the chained CPI meow2u3 Apr 2013 #41
Why? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #46
Upon reflection ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #56
They're not listening to heartless plutocrats like me and you Hekate Apr 2013 #75
those folk are NOT STUPID Skittles Apr 2013 #85
and grown children helping elderly parents through their last years wordpix Apr 2013 #60
POTUS JEB Apr 2013 #5
No, JEB.. Pres Obama isn't making boner look good except to Cha Apr 2013 #25
And a whole lot of ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #40
Yeah, there's that. Cha Apr 2013 #43
Exactly as planned. I just wish the low-information armchair activists... Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #9
Sorry, but by proposing cuts, he's legitimizing that approach cali Apr 2013 #10
+10000000000000000000000000000 Little Star Apr 2013 #16
Yes, pretending to drive the car off a cliff to get the people in the car to behave is so effective. Brickbat Apr 2013 #12
+1 YoungDemCA Apr 2013 #13
your right, its politics, and politics is very seldom straightforward Bodhi BloodWave Apr 2013 #30
LOL deutsey Apr 2013 #17
"We only HOPED he could drive...." bobduca Apr 2013 #26
Yea ...those "armchair activists" are really pissing off the worshippers. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #73
+ a million. Number23 Apr 2013 #79
Social Security is being threatened by this tiresome political "game"... YoungDemCA Apr 2013 #11
predictable noiretextatique Apr 2013 #14
This is not a game and I, timdog44 Apr 2013 #19
I say give the president a chance. I still back President Obama. olegramps Apr 2013 #20
we all back Obama Skittles Apr 2013 #66
Boehner can kiss my sweet ass. Bertha Venation Apr 2013 #21
Actually lark Apr 2013 #32
There is something I can finally agree with this... santamargarita Apr 2013 #24
Orange Julius will show us how to lead -- right after a smoke break and 18 holes Blue Owl Apr 2013 #27
Obama could offer Bonehead a personal body part on a silver platter and the soul of his first born, MADem Apr 2013 #28
And sadly ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #42
No way to lead and move the country forward AndyA Apr 2013 #29
It's finally come to this. hay rick Apr 2013 #33
boner doesn't give a shit about what the President is proposing.. he Cha Apr 2013 #45
I love it when people come to their own conclusions on things AndyA Apr 2013 #81
Boner doesn't give a damn about senior citizens Skittles Apr 2013 #68
Yeah Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2013 #72
CORRECT Skittles Apr 2013 #74
there ya go...they hate this President more than they embrace their ideology spanone Apr 2013 #34
Obama Misplayed His Hand With The Bush Tax Cuts DallasNE Apr 2013 #35
The President knows SS cuts wouldn't get through the Senate madville Apr 2013 #47
fuck that Skittles Apr 2013 #67
I do not care DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #52
Exactly! PinkFloyd Apr 2013 #53
The plan between the two parties is to KEEP the sequester in place. Period. nt valerief Apr 2013 #55
I wish Dems would counter the "they got their tax revenues" line EC Apr 2013 #58
Wow. SS is going to be saved by Boehner? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #63
Can we blame Boner now? treestar Apr 2013 #65
I'm shocked, .. shocked I tell you! Lil Missy Apr 2013 #76
Ha. And yet this thread will be buried under the 296 identical "Obama WANTS to cut SS!one!1" threads Number23 Apr 2013 #77
So Boner comes across as SS saviour. . B Calm Apr 2013 #82
One just wonders what he'll give up next.... LiberalLovinLug Apr 2013 #83
The speaker rejects the CPI cuts Larrylarry Apr 2013 #84
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