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In reply to the discussion: How I feel about President Obama [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)from almost my first day here as a participant.
The simple fact of the matter is that all the bashing of the sort you and many others have fallen victim to is done by those who are part of the problems we address with our criticisms, and not part of the solution. They are perfectly entitled to disagree with us, but that disagreement has largely taken the form of insults intended solely to discourage (censorship) debate, and often have been the beginning and end of it.
What I've found to be most insulting and disgusting about all of it going back well before the election, is the way they project their hatefullness and divisiveness onto us with the namecalling which "basher" is, and one of the less "flattering" as well. It is they that are the hatefull and divisive ones, who have made a mockery of the definition of what it means to be "liberal" in the non-political, denotative sense, as well as politically in terms of some of the things upon which we disagree.
My feelings about BHO haven't changed much since I voted for him the first time, because I knew what I was voting for in terms of what he'd likely do, and there have been very few significant surprises. I had very little in the way of doubt before voting for him this last time, that we'd be seeing him put SS, etc, on the table as he has.
The bashers have accomplished nothing but sowing discord in our ranks at a time when we need complete unity, and in imo, that unity needed to be seen and heard before the election whether it would have changed anything or not. I've long thought and argued around here that all the bashing could have been the proverbial straw that broke the backs of many otherwise wouldbe BHO voters last year, compelling them to stay home, simply because they were made to feel unwelcome in the "party" by the bashers. As also noted, only the level of fear for the rightwingnuttery Mutt represented likely limited the damage they did with their BS.
But we are and have been the "divisive and hateful" ones. They simply either lack the intellectual heft and/or integrity, or the mental acuity to resolve constructive, heartfelt criticisms and the hateful "bashing" the enemy does into the two separate and distinct things they are, or in the alternative, simply don't care to for all the wrong reasons. Hindsight is no replacement for foresight, but it's far better than the blindness they promote with their bashing.
Hopefully this situation will finally open their eyes. I've seen a lot of the "bashers" pretending none of that ever happened or that they participated in it, but I haven't even thought about looking for any apologies for it.
tell them to kiss your ass and to call it a love story...lol