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Spitfire of ATJ

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42. No. This is a case of trading core values...

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:32 PM

Apr 2013

Republicans have a core value of tax cuts for the rich therefore Obama is expected to give up a core value in return.

They consider that "fair" in DC.

Forget what America wants. Forget the election, that doesn't matter. The attitude there is that Republicans rule and Democrats are temporarily in office.

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The biggest mistake by Barack Obama? [View all] kentuck Apr 2013 OP

K&R 99Forever Apr 2013 #1

Thinking that Republicans could be reasoned with? zbdent Apr 2013 #2

He's the only grownup in the room... on the left or on the right... nt Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #3

Pfft. truebluegreen Apr 2013 #78

His biggest mistake? mick063 Apr 2013 #4

Telling us one thing and doing another. tblue Apr 2013 #5

I love the open ended outrage threads. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #6

Just my opinion, Joe... kentuck Apr 2013 #9

No budget is going to pass this congress, period. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #10

They will only shut it down one time... kentuck Apr 2013 #14

Doing nothing IS shutting it down. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #15

No, they don't want to shut down the government... kentuck Apr 2013 #22

Right, because that's what's actually happened. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #28

I disagree. kentuck Apr 2013 #30

Obama has called them out for not doing their job. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #33

If there was no disagreement from Democrats? kentuck Apr 2013 #34

Hummm ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #35

So why go thru the charade? kentuck Apr 2013 #40

it's called pretzel logic, kentuck Skittles Apr 2013 #58

I'm really trying to understand the defense of putting SS cuts on the table, so bear with sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #17

Those programs exist, the GOP hates them, therefore, they are always on the table. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #27

"Those programs exist, the GOP hates them, therefore, they are always on the table" ljm2002 Apr 2013 #43

I see the difference. Thanks. 840high Apr 2013 #62

Wrong. The republicans love government to function. tabasco Apr 2013 #23

That's only when THEY control the White House. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #29

Republicans control the House and Senate The Wizard Apr 2013 #46

Do you have a link to that National Socialists strategy? kentuck Apr 2013 #47

Thank you so much for saying that notadmblnd Apr 2013 #12

Thanks, but I doubt it. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #18

"you are claiming that Obama's biggest blunder is have proposed a budget" demwing Apr 2013 #59

Biggest mistake Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #7

Obama's biggest mistake was putting Social Security and Medicare on the table. RC Apr 2013 #8

Those programs exist, the GOP hates them, therefore, they are always on the table. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #11

They are on the Republican table. NOT on the Democratic table. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #19

Well, except for actual history which includes Nixon raising benefits by 10% and calling for Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #20

Nope, to be on the table both sides have to agree they are negotiable. TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #21

That wouldn't be... civilized .. kentuck Apr 2013 #24

Nonsense - Republican may hate Social Security, but Democrats don't put it on the table 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #68

I agree. tabasco Apr 2013 #25

+100 n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #32

Really, what does he care. He'll never have to rely solely on either as many of those he is SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #49

Playing nice in a den of rattlesnakes will get you bitten numerous times every indepat Apr 2013 #13

ACA - the quaint notion that insurance companies give a shit about providing health care. KG Apr 2013 #16

It still is idiotic to even try to work out anything with them. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #26

It was end-run around his own party. Marr Apr 2013 #31

Don't you know how it works in DC? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author duffyduff Apr 2013 #37

We KNOW how it "works" in D.C. duffyduff Apr 2013 #38

No. This is a case of trading core values... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #42

Not letting the fucking Bush tax cuts expire when they were supposed to. WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #39

Psst...the top marginal rate went back up to the Clinton rate this year. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #44

Psst...too little, too late. WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #64

This focus on finance was ANNOUNCED by Republicans,... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #65

And? WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #69

The Bush tax cuts were restored on only about 5% or less of tax payers... kentuck Apr 2013 #67

I live in North Carolina, where extended UI benefits end July 1st... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #70

That was the TOP 5%... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #71

Not really. kentuck Apr 2013 #73

Face it. The Republicans will NEVER be satisfied.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #75

Well he's supposed to be a smart guy... ljm2002 Apr 2013 #41

Correct on all counts. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #52

Mistake? That was a deliberate tactic. There was no mistake. All is going according to plan Catherina Apr 2013 #45

Rec. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #48

Yes Indeed! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #53

Not having a core set of political beliefs. Peregrine Took Apr 2013 #50

Exactly. Who the hell is this guy? eilen Apr 2013 #60

That's a very good point... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #72

again. and again. and again. robinlynne Apr 2013 #51

The President is actually required by law to submit a Budget the first week in Feb bottomofthehill Apr 2013 #54

But the Congress is not required to accept it. kentuck Apr 2013 #57

Absolutely, the House and Senate need to produce a budget too bottomofthehill Apr 2013 #63

Thinking that his job is to make nice with the Republicans Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #55

K&R. The public has always trusted Democrats when it came to Social Security. Now? I don't know. David Zephyr Apr 2013 #56

The poor used to rely on the Democrats until the 90's. eilen Apr 2013 #61

All the Democrats need to say is ... Eddie Haskell Apr 2013 #66

Not letting the Bush tax cuts *all of them* expire when Bush's deadline was due. SoCalDem Apr 2013 #74

Yep.. kentuck Apr 2013 #76

Speed was of the essence SoCalDem Apr 2013 #77

K&R WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #79