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Dragonfli

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47. It is either extremely bad strategy, or revealing of his personal ideology

Sat Apr 6, 2013, 03:12 PM

Apr 2013

It may even be simpler than either of those, he may be nothing more than another purchased politician that does the bidding of the Pete Peterson's of the world for simple shallow personal gain.

Whatever the motive, it is already damaging the party before the midterms and once the full fallout is known and the negotiations finished, we may be dealing with more damage than can be overcome.

The tortured explanations are something to behold, I don't know if the people making them are self deluded, or if they are desperately and purposefully trying to misrepresent things in order to trick as many as possible into supporting really bad policy decisions. Reality does not get in the way of their rationalizations or crazy arguments, I think they may even believe powerful men create the reality that we may only observe and discuss, like the neocons claimed to believe.

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Is it me, or is Obama as bad a "listener" about Social Security as Bush was about invading Iraq? [View all] villager Apr 2013 OP

You are correct. So much for being able to "hold his feet to the fire" DearHeart Apr 2013 #1

If we are the leaders we've been waiting for... why is our President refusing to follow? villager Apr 2013 #4

Good question! We are his bosses, but he's being insubordinate! DearHeart Apr 2013 #6

His GPS keeps saying, "Recalculating" tblue Apr 2013 #29

a Solution MisterP Apr 2013 #40

"All hat no cattle". xtraxritical Apr 2013 #39

Neoliberalism is the only liberalism we got now unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #2

Which is far right policies bordering on fascism duffyduff Apr 2013 #17

Exactly unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #24

I don't know what the hell is going on. femmocrat Apr 2013 #3

He shows up during campaigns, then is quickly retired villager Apr 2013 #5

Well, I do know what's going on and I've known it for years. Raksha Apr 2013 #27

Same here. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #42

+1 rateyes Apr 2013 #45

In my opinion, Obama decided to do this years ago, and has no interest in public opinion, djean111 Apr 2013 #7

Oh, it definitely predates his election unrepentant progress Apr 2013 #26

It will be very difficult, but it's important not to spoil the Democrats' chances in 2014. Raksha Apr 2013 #30

Great idea! djean111 Apr 2013 #31

Nah. It's a very vocal minority... WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #38

+1 villager Apr 2013 #32

+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #34

Exactly. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #44

Stone deaf re. education. Doesn't know; doesn't WANT to know... n/t Smarmie Doofus Apr 2013 #8

He DOES know, and in fact thought the GOP had the right ideas on it duffyduff Apr 2013 #19

You aren't alone in making that assumption. Wwagsthedog Apr 2013 #9

Bush and Obama are both damn good listeners. Autumn Apr 2013 #10

Public Opinion in BOTH parties on Social Security is "Do Not Change Anything" whathehell Apr 2013 #11

I don't want to appear insulting, but you do understand that the President can SAY anything.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #12

So why not SAY he isn't going to cut Social Security then? villager Apr 2013 #13

He wants to gut it. That's the point. duffyduff Apr 2013 #21

LOL. Nonsense. It's a wedge issue. nt. OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #23

You're sadly minsinformed. He's not "gutting" anything. BlueCaliDem Apr 2013 #28

Because he's using this as a wedge issue to go after all of those GOP voters who.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #22

I don't want to appear insulting, but if this is a wedge issue to go after GOP Dragonfli Apr 2013 #37

I see it the same way-- that argument makes no logical sense. Marr Apr 2013 #41

It is either extremely bad strategy, or revealing of his personal ideology Dragonfli Apr 2013 #47

Explain his education policies, which haven't gone through Congress duffyduff Apr 2013 #20

Hmmm. What exact education legislation has been created by the White House?.... OldDem2012 Apr 2013 #25

for the life of me, I can't understand why he did this. There appears to be no up side CTyankee Apr 2013 #36

Why? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #46

unnnn, this is logic be damned, at least Bush could blame his adivsers Obama on the other hand uponit7771 Apr 2013 #14

Try his rotten education policies, which are even worse duffyduff Apr 2013 #15

Sure it appears to be. I mean he is totally ignoring people's opinion on the issue. Cleita Apr 2013 #16

Obama has been talking about "reforming" Social Security since before he took office jsr Apr 2013 #18

Good comparison, and Obama will end up as reviled over this as Bush has been over Iraq. forestpath Apr 2013 #33

It ain't U,V. >>>that is all. Dryvinwhileblind Apr 2013 #35

It's not Obama's fault. agent46 Apr 2013 #43

like tinkerbelle he will fade away if we don't believe hard enough, don't let tinkerbelle die! Dragonfli Apr 2013 #48

He has adopted or pretended to adopt a false view of SS. DirkGently Apr 2013 #49