General Discussion

Autumn

(48,961 posts)

33. Maybe it's time to replace both party's in the

Reply to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 09:39 AM

Apr 2013

Senate and Congress. Got an election coming up. Do we really want the same thing we already have? Cause I don't think this works any more.

K/R

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

224 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

You ain't gonna do shit [View all] UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 OP

Yes - Americans Are Being Played For Chumps cantbeserious Apr 2013 #1

I am doing something. I realized nothing is going to get fixed in the US. Once I get my Masters Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #30

So, where are you headed after grad school? Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #60

Either Japan or South America, would prefer Japan :) Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #121

Too close to N. Korea! n/t SylviaD Apr 2013 #191

That is my goal as well demwing Apr 2013 #72

Agree, nothing will get fixed here. The system has long been sold out. I have no desire to try and Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #122

More about Uruguay: demwing Apr 2013 #149

Thanks, will put it in as part of the list of possible countries. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #156

Smart move IMO. I would do the same. Countries become very weird, and the US is well on its way. RKP5637 Apr 2013 #127

I think its past the point of being fixed. Maybe it will right itself in ten-twenty years, but I Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #129

Yep, agree, it'll need to be a generational change. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #136

Basically the country will take a nosedive and discover how bad they can make it for ourselves Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #140

What concerns me is today with current technology there are so many tools and RKP5637 Apr 2013 #146

Yep, there are to many ways to suppress the masses. I am reminded of a scene in "V for Vendetta" Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #173

Yep! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #177

It won't tavalon Apr 2013 #183

I agree, Japan may not be the best spot unfortunately. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #184

I always wanted to visit there tavalon Apr 2013 #185

Me too lark Apr 2013 #142

Either Japan or South America, would prefer Japan although any of the Northern Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #143

Good luck lark Apr 2013 #145

I do like the idea of Brazil, your right Europe is busy pricing itself out. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #157

I have waited too late... dotymed Apr 2013 #211

Cold's no problem to me! Oakenshield Apr 2013 #205

Good luck to you as well lark Apr 2013 #221

du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2013 #2

That system has boundaries and limits which aren't infinitely expandable. leveymg Apr 2013 #3

No problem....it just recycles. pocoloco Apr 2013 #31

In chemistry, there is a classic experiment done by most Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #4

Yep, I remember that well working with titration points. I was always amazed at how RKP5637 Apr 2013 #28

If THAT'S how it's gonna play out Plucketeer Apr 2013 #65

Yep, JEB Apr 2013 #74

Yeah, same here ... I thought that was the line crossed, but people just took it RKP5637 Apr 2013 #155

And the red will be blood, most likely Demeter Apr 2013 #92

what you are taking about is a titration. DeadEyeDyck Apr 2013 #108

Except, poverty acts as the buffer Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #172

That's been the case throughout history Warpy Apr 2013 #176

First comes awareness, followed by despair. Then comes action, finally followed by change. reformist2 Apr 2013 #5

The revolution was won in 2008. Everyone should stop wanting instant gratification graham4anything Apr 2013 #9

I agree with that, in the sense that it was a turning point. But... reformist2 Apr 2013 #10

See reply #11 UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #13

So you are telling seniors, vets, those in poverty, people still losing jobs and retirements, etc., rhett o rick Apr 2013 #21

those are lovely soundbytes, however as proven 100 times, none in your title are affected graham4anything Apr 2013 #37

You are either pulling our legs or something. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #40

This is meant to be funny, right? You should include a sarcasm icon, people sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #75

means I am WINNNNNNNNINGGGGGGGG graham4anything Apr 2013 #79

When you get tired of arguing the viewpoint......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #91

Agreed. You won't get anything better than President Obama for maybe 50 years if then. graham4anything Apr 2013 #168

singlehandedly saved the US auto industry? Mnpaul Apr 2013 #133

Bush basically handed the reins over by that time graham4anything Apr 2013 #134

Handed the reins over for what? Mnpaul Apr 2013 #135

No, 2008 was a further win for NeoLiberalism. newthinking Apr 2013 #167

You are correct about this (quoting): delrem Apr 2013 #200

It is a global coup Mojorabbit Apr 2013 #203

I long ago put Glenn Greenwald the libertarian on ignore graham4anything Apr 2013 #210

Your response doesn't surprise me. delrem Apr 2013 #223

You've been drinking too much Kool-Ade. Scuba Apr 2013 #25

yep. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #138

Oh yeah ... Newest Reality Apr 2013 #32

The revolution was won in 1963..... pocoloco Apr 2013 #34

actually, that is not historically true graham4anything Apr 2013 #85

There we go! n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #196

Yep...you got it right. zeemike Apr 2013 #131

Obama sucks. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #43

There is a truly adult slogan.Saying someone sucks is a fine means to change. graham4anything Apr 2013 #45

If the truth is simple, then keep it simple. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #48

Bush wasn't an idiot. He won two seats as President. And his brother is favored for a 3rd graham4anything Apr 2013 #54

He was an idiot and he won because gore and loserman couldn't find water if Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #58

Why didn't you work harder for Jesse Jackson and Jerry Brown in the 80s and 1992? graham4anything Apr 2013 #61

Because I was ten. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #100

I worked very hard to have Bob Graham named VP both in 2000 and 2004 graham4anything Apr 2013 #104

So Nader is sooo powerful to undermind gores campaign? Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #125

How come Bob Graham didn't do anything to stop Bush? Mnpaul Apr 2013 #139

How come Paul Wellstone didn't do anything? graham4anything Apr 2013 #206

+1! CrispyQ Apr 2013 #62

+1 n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #105

It only took a few minutes reading your posts to see that you have an agenda. Won two seats lonestarnot Apr 2013 #110

Bing Crosby- Everybody has an angle. graham4anything Apr 2013 #111

Will forever be known as the 42 and 43 takedown of the top without a shot being fired. lonestarnot Apr 2013 #118

Should have begged LBJ to run in 1968 and beat Nixon. I know I did. graham4anything Apr 2013 #119

How come LBJ didn't expose Nixon? Mnpaul Apr 2013 #141

Just like you or me, he expected others to expose the the right and wrong nolabels Apr 2013 #207

Because America comes first. Vengence and Anarchy is plain stupid. graham4anything Apr 2013 #208

If LBJ loved America Mnpaul Apr 2013 #213

At that time, it is Nixon's ballfield. One don't armchair quarterback.Or backseat drive graham4anything Apr 2013 #214

It wasn't Nixon's ball field Mnpaul Apr 2013 #215

The public prevented LBJ from being president. Pretty stupid of them graham4anything Apr 2013 #216

You have a lame excuse for everything don't you? Mnpaul Apr 2013 #218

Yes , Yes he was an idiot and he Never Won anything. He Stoled It:) 4 t 4 Apr 2013 #198

bush was my governor six years before he was installed as president Skittles Apr 2013 #199

he already HAS changed much for the better and moved the country left. Only people with their KittyWampus Apr 2013 #144

Hold on while I read your examples of leftward progress. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #166

If the revolution was won in 2008, then why are things still going down hill and why are we still RC Apr 2013 #47

I think he means that Wall St. won the revolution! sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #76

Ask Gorby in Russia. He tore down the walls and Russia went back to the past with Putin graham4anything Apr 2013 #112

Yep. (NT) reACTIONary Apr 2013 #69

If that was a win, how bad would losing be? Doctor_J Apr 2013 #71

You are confusing a revolution with window dressing. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #101

awareness is systematically and pretty effectively blocked... tomp Apr 2013 #66

different people are at different levels demwing Apr 2013 #88

I agree that the next 10 years will shape humanity for the next century or more... Moostache Apr 2013 #120

Latter day Les Mis�rables unrepentedhipster Apr 2013 #81

Then we may be doomed to repeat the mistakes ... unrepentedhipster. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #222

Sad but true Glorfindel Apr 2013 #6

AMEN sorefeet Apr 2013 #7

What did they do? They voted for Ralph Nader in NH in 2000 and threw it to Bush graham4anything Apr 2013 #8

Your post is like streamlining straight, uncut irony. Bonobo Apr 2013 #16

My answer is anything but ironic- I am doing something- graham4anything Apr 2013 #22

Non-responsive. Move to strike, your Honor. Bonobo Apr 2013 #23

Because I am not a player in Ron Paul's game. I peel the layers of the wedge of lettuce graham4anything Apr 2013 #24

I think part of the posters point onpatrol98 Apr 2013 #38

The media died when Dan Rather was uniformally character asssasssinated & no one had his back graham4anything Apr 2013 #42

So you're anti the 1st Amendment also. You forgot the Civil Rights movement, which sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #82

Most countries had rightwing leaders, now being replaced by their Barack Obama's graham4anything Apr 2013 #126

There is so much wrong with your comment that it would take all day to sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #171

Saying Jefferson was a liberal and he owned slaves and fought to keep them and profit from them graham4anything Apr 2013 #180

Gore lost because he sucked ass. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #44

2 cars left NYC for Tampa. One a reliable Honda, one a fancy flash red/green Corvette graham4anything Apr 2013 #53

Nader was the forward movement. Fuddnik Apr 2013 #68

Then you must be happy with what Nader won in 2000, Alito and Roberts graham4anything Apr 2013 #70

My head hurts G_j Apr 2013 #124

Oh yeah, UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #11

Very true. Good name for Ralph Nader. graham4anything Apr 2013 #20

Yep! bvar22 Apr 2013 #96

he was a patsy for the republican party. He knows it, he couldn't contain his ego graham4anything Apr 2013 #99

Nader wasn't that strong. bvar22 Apr 2013 #103

Hear, hear! Thanks for the sanity, bvar. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #107

+1000 nt laundry_queen Apr 2013 #109

It's always someone else's fault Mnpaul Apr 2013 #123

he did not need to be a superman DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #165

What you are afraid to consider is that the Democratic Party threw away those votes. bvar22 Apr 2013 #179

with all due respect DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #188

I offer NO respect for Blaming Failure on that which you can NOT Change. bvar22 Apr 2013 #190

no respect? Cute DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #194

Another Fail. bvar22 Apr 2013 #220

You ignored the part DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #224

Sad but damned true. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #197

How about... ramapo Apr 2013 #12

Simple (but radical): Demand a basic income because there aren't enough jobs to go around. reformist2 Apr 2013 #17

Commie. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #67

and when TPTB sneer at us, just as the OP noted? demwing Apr 2013 #89

K&R. !!!!!!!!' newfie11 Apr 2013 #14

kr HiPointDem Apr 2013 #15

Exactly. Yesterday I marched in the streets but it was an exception to the rule. eomer Apr 2013 #18

Marches and petitions and drum circles do not intimidate the elite Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #35

Great post. nt raccoon Apr 2013 #128

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but your actions may be too random. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #36

Maybe I created a false impression; the march yesterday was part of an orchestrated campaign. eomer Apr 2013 #150

Please dont think I am saying we shouldnt do these actions. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #158

I think you are right. Unfortunately most of the people I know are nowhere near ready for this. eomer Apr 2013 #169

I am with you. Right now the brave are fighting the real fight but at some point, rhett o rick Apr 2013 #170

eomer, you are not alone mrdmk Apr 2013 #217

What are you gonna do? geckosfeet Apr 2013 #19

With all due respect. 99Forever Apr 2013 #56

Oh thank you so very much! And here I was thinking geckosfeet Apr 2013 #64

So then... 99Forever Apr 2013 #87

I have no intention of taking back anything by force. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #114

From what? 99Forever Apr 2013 #115

Enough of you. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #116

So you have no reasonable answer. 99Forever Apr 2013 #117

"Peashooters" at the very least insure they have to kill us to totally subdue us. TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #94

So you do advocate violent revolution. 99Forever Apr 2013 #98

Not exactly, what I favor is all options on the table. TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #193

Begging? 99Forever Apr 2013 #209

Some will send emails, call congress, or sign a petition NightWatcher Apr 2013 #26

Hubris sulphurdunn Apr 2013 #27

Oh yeah, what would they do if ALL of us RoccoR5955 Apr 2013 #29

Maybe it's time to replace both party's in the Autumn Apr 2013 #33

When the official unemployment rate reaches 25% a la 1933..... steve2470 Apr 2013 #39

Not likely to happen, they'll pretend more folks just stopped needing money in America TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #50

I'm afraid you are indeed correct nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #51

Just like with elections Doctor_J Apr 2013 #78

The slaves are too busy working, and the unemployed are too poor to get to rallies. jsr Apr 2013 #41

They assume and hope we'll do nothing. winter is coming Apr 2013 #46

There IS nothing we can do to make an effect Doctor_J Apr 2013 #73

Pepper spraying peaceful protestors and sending in undercover cops trying winter is coming Apr 2013 #86

I agree with you. Marr Apr 2013 #102

Most of them don't even 'truly' understand what 'they're doing' themselves... Amonester Apr 2013 #175

Of course ... Newest Reality Apr 2013 #49

+1 nt Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #52

Welcome home UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #55

Not sure about SS--friends who don't pay much attention to politics are concerned AndyA Apr 2013 #57

No, not leaning on fables like Gandhi freeing India and the effectiveness of Viet Nam protest TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #59

Word Doctor_J Apr 2013 #77

I will no longer subsidize the robber barons and war criminals Fiendish Thingy Apr 2013 #63

What you say is generally true. But some will mix more kool-aid. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #80

Well of course broadcaster75201 Apr 2013 #83

I think I would alternate "You ain't gonna do shit" with "You gonna do it with enthusiasm" Paul E Ester Apr 2013 #84

You're wrong. People have said they had enough. caseymoz Apr 2013 #90

Occupy SANDY AndyTiedye Apr 2013 #204

No, it's not dead caseymoz Apr 2013 #219

Well done. russspeakeasy Apr 2013 #93

In France, they want to raise the retirement age to 62... Bigmack Apr 2013 #95

There is NO SS in France. They have the best system. It is called WELLNESS graham4anything Apr 2013 #113

Hold on to your Memories! bvar22 Apr 2013 #97

It'd be a nice change if people wouldn't do shit. raouldukelives Apr 2013 #106

Is this a song? If not ...it should be. L0oniX Apr 2013 #130

K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #132

and that's the bottom line d_b Apr 2013 #137

The tubes are our only way to protest the system, but erronis Apr 2013 #147

If we stand up to the corporate bullies and overturn Citizens United, all this goes away. Initech Apr 2013 #148

Someone made me mad on fb and I stole some of this. Festivito Apr 2013 #151

In my opinion pandadug Apr 2013 #152

Exactly! Shit keeps being served up and Americans say thank you! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #153

K&R limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #154

To quote Bill Hicks: "Go back to bed America your government is in control" Initech Apr 2013 #159

I'm gonna drink more KOOL AID. Grip and sip. mmmm n/t pa28 Apr 2013 #160

Just talking about it is doing shit. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #161

Is it time yet for a General Strike to 'brush back ' the PTB? on point Apr 2013 #162

true...unfortunately. add -"when male lawmakers ban abortion. women dont do shit Liberal_in_LA Apr 2013 #163

So....what's the answer? To "not do shit?" MADem Apr 2013 #164

You ain't gonna do shit! blindhog Apr 2013 #174

Said by the French aristocracy in the 1780's. nt Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #178

K&R n/t Cali_Democrat Apr 2013 #181

Rec with profound sadness. tblue Apr 2013 #182

Right, I ain't gonna give money, I ain't gonna volunteer time and I ain't gonna vote HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #186

Yup. woo me with science Apr 2013 #187

It's the media! Win-the-fight Apr 2013 #189

That's the Problem with Mainstream Media Owned by Corporations KoKo Apr 2013 #192

Not true. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #195

Not going to do shit? Is this 2010 style prep for 2014? Yeah, that worked real well for us. patrice Apr 2013 #201

DU Un-Rec patrice Apr 2013 #202

Agreed Mr Dixon Apr 2013 #212