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Males? DURHAM D Apr 2013 #1
Well, yes. RainDog Apr 2013 #2
I don't know. DURHAM D Apr 2013 #3
I asked a question RainDog Apr 2013 #4
Sorry... DURHAM D Apr 2013 #6
goodbye n/t RainDog Apr 2013 #10
the poster to whom you responded is one seriously dedicated feminist, and probably, as I am, niyad Apr 2013 #13
Thanks niyad. DURHAM D Apr 2013 #16
you are most welcome. niyad Apr 2013 #17
Thanks for telling me off. DURHAM D Apr 2013 #14
In other words Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #34
This is such a stupid response - but allow me to explain RainDog Apr 2013 #43
Except it wasn't a tautological statement Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #47
I'm a female RainDog Apr 2013 #49
I accounted for the possibility of you being a female Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #50
I think it probably dates back to caveman days...comes from men. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #5
Ah, but women in Judaism and Christianity were either mothers or saints..... PDJane Apr 2013 #8
True, I suppose. But that was a new idea at the time. Very modern and a new way of thinking Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #11
But we don't have proof of this RainDog Apr 2013 #9
No, I haven't done a scientific study. That was my opinion, based on things Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #12
There are cultures that exist today RainDog Apr 2013 #18
Caring for the elderly has nothing to do with the treatment of women. Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #19
I wasn't arguing with you RainDog Apr 2013 #45
There is more balance there I think rrneck Apr 2013 #46
^This. When survival depended on brute strength, a woman needed a man to survive more than a Squinch Apr 2013 #80
I read somewhere that it was jealousy over childbearing... Whisp Apr 2013 #7
where does it come from? the abrahamic, patriarchal religions, to start (meaning, christianity, niyad Apr 2013 #15
Have you read The Chalice and the Blade by Riane Eisler? riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #33
I read it many years ago, thought I still had a copy somewhere, but I dont. Saw Riane in niyad Apr 2013 #37
And I to get "When God was a Woman" by Merlin Stone! riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #39
Great book! Squinch Apr 2013 #82
will have to order that one, as well. thank you. that one I know is not on my shelves. niyad Apr 2013 #87
In early Christianity, women often were leaders of the movement. So in Squinch Apr 2013 #81
The short answer is men, religion and capitalism. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #20
Lord, are you actually arguing that Riftaxe Apr 2013 #26
Uh, no, it started a hell of a lot longer ago that 300 years. a la izquierda Apr 2013 #36
Since the first man realized the value of women LittleBlue Apr 2013 #21
The answer is simple: men. Beacool Apr 2013 #22
The Bible. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #23
+1 sweetNsassy Apr 2013 #42
I believe it started when we became an agrarian society u4ic Apr 2013 #24
The soundest argument, it seems RainDog Apr 2013 #44
Good post. I would add that before war and settled communities came an ecological barrier that byeya Apr 2013 #56
Capitalism, profit maintains sexism Mushroom Apr 2013 #25
Religious institutions n/t malaise Apr 2013 #27
The concept of private property Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #28
So you think Engels asked the right questions? RainDog Apr 2013 #62
Indeed Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #66
I'm glad you decided to weigh in RainDog Apr 2013 #67
Fear. alphafemale Apr 2013 #29
HIstorically, whatever is convenient for males. nt raccoon Apr 2013 #30
Warrior cultures tend to be male dominated Nikia Apr 2013 #31
You have to look at evolution for that Shankapotomus Apr 2013 #32
This is not true RainDog Apr 2013 #48
Genetically, humans are slightly closer to common chimps than bonobos, I think. When a bonobo female byeya Apr 2013 #53
Bonobos and common chimps share the same % of DNA with humans. RainDog Apr 2013 #58
This study claims human ancestors had societies like bonobos RainDog Apr 2013 #85
There are still matriarchal societies today. The Mosuo in China come to mind riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #35
Also the Iroquois had an amazing civilization RainDog Apr 2013 #64
Penthouse. randome Apr 2013 #38
Fashion magazines and the media haven't done us any favors. sweetNsassy Apr 2013 #40
The anthropologist Marvin Harris showed that the more militaristic a society was, the worse females byeya Apr 2013 #41
do you have a link for this one? RainDog Apr 2013 #70
Thomas Jefferson who wrote "All MEN are created equal" and left out 76% of the country graham4anything Apr 2013 #51
Abrahamic religions. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #52
You may find this article interesting... Maine-ah Apr 2013 #54
Yes. I'd read that one earlier RainDog Apr 2013 #61
Mass media. Rex Apr 2013 #55
Just need a clarification. Helen Reddy Apr 2013 #57
I was just tossing a question out there for discussion RainDog Apr 2013 #59
K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #60
Religion, society, old traditions, nature, the media, parents, etc.. davidn3600 Apr 2013 #63
some men and women are taking each others' names RainDog Apr 2013 #65
The Jackie Gleason show. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #68
Pregnancy and property transfer Recursion Apr 2013 #69
but that assumes a nuclear family RainDog Apr 2013 #71
No, it assumes a tribe Recursion Apr 2013 #74
From men. MineralMan Apr 2013 #72
This is in there. Squinch Apr 2013 #83
In answer to the final question in your post - NOPE ConcernedCanuk Apr 2013 #73
Recommended reading: The Chalice and the Blade by Riane Eisler Hekate Apr 2013 #75
why don't you talk about it here a little bit RainDog Apr 2013 #76
Sorry for the post and run Hekate Apr 2013 #77
I'm somewhat familiar with Eisler's work RainDog Apr 2013 #79
You're asking for a single source, for one of human society's most complex constructs? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #78
Good question, RainDog. Interesting thread. I'm getting a lot out of it. Squinch Apr 2013 #84
A lot of good ideas here. I would suggest that it is some combination of smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #86
Social Scientists have only recently chervilant Apr 2013 #88
The Chalice and the Blade LWolf Apr 2013 #89
Gilligan didn't quite do it for me. RainDog Apr 2013 #90
Yes, I agree chervilant Apr 2013 #91
I don't think the AAH has much merit RainDog Apr 2013 #92
Unfamiliar with AAH... chervilant Apr 2013 #93
Aquatic Ape Hypothesis RainDog Apr 2013 #97
Lucy and her culture One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #94
I don't know about all religions, fadedrose Apr 2013 #95
Fashion designers? Neoma Apr 2013 #96
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