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In reply to the discussion: Way to go, America. Meals on Wheels funding cut by sequestration. Seniors fearful. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)80. Guess Howard Dean was wrong
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Looking at Washington and whats happening there, you came out saying that you think that the sequester wasnt necessarily a bad idea and perhaps the only way we can get some military cuts. Are you still feeling that way about things now that the sequester has gone into effect?
I am. I mean the House, of course, added some of it back, but I dont think the Senate will allow that to happen. Look, the military has gotten enormous. They dont ever cut it and they just keep adding to it. The Congress gives the military stuff the military doesnt even want. And it was never going to get cut by either the Democrats or the Republicans if they had to vote on the cuts. So, I see this as you know this is doing some damage to things that I care about and to some people that I care about, but the need to get the military cut is just overwhelming because nothings been done for 25, 30 years. So, I think that the military needs to be cut. A lot of the baggage that the Congress put in there needs to be taken out. They need to make some tough decisions between weapons systems instead of just getting everything and thats what the sequesters going to do.
So, again, its not ideal but, given that they dont have the guts to cut the military in Congress, this is the best way to get it done.
Whats your prediction about the sequesters impact on the economy and the middle class?
I think itll be fine. There will be some hardships for some individuals, theres no question about that, but I think that most of the economists predictions are going to be wrong.
If you were sitting in the White House right now and looking to make the Grand Bargain that everyone talks about, what would that look like to you?
Well, the Republicans are never going to do it. First of all, the Obama administration should have never left all of that revenue on the table for people earning under $400,000 a year. What I would do is I would close a bunch of corporate loopholes like get rid of the oil depletion allowance. And I do think you can reform Medicare without cutting benefits. What you need to do is have Medicare become a program where the providers are paid by the patient, not by the procedure. Because the whole system depends on what doctors do, which is ME, a doctor, and we get paid whether it works or not. Its a silly way to pay people.
http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/03/interview-gov-howard-dean-talks-about-gun-control-sequester-and-more.html
Looking at Washington and whats happening there, you came out saying that you think that the sequester wasnt necessarily a bad idea and perhaps the only way we can get some military cuts. Are you still feeling that way about things now that the sequester has gone into effect?
I am. I mean the House, of course, added some of it back, but I dont think the Senate will allow that to happen. Look, the military has gotten enormous. They dont ever cut it and they just keep adding to it. The Congress gives the military stuff the military doesnt even want. And it was never going to get cut by either the Democrats or the Republicans if they had to vote on the cuts. So, I see this as you know this is doing some damage to things that I care about and to some people that I care about, but the need to get the military cut is just overwhelming because nothings been done for 25, 30 years. So, I think that the military needs to be cut. A lot of the baggage that the Congress put in there needs to be taken out. They need to make some tough decisions between weapons systems instead of just getting everything and thats what the sequesters going to do.
So, again, its not ideal but, given that they dont have the guts to cut the military in Congress, this is the best way to get it done.
Whats your prediction about the sequesters impact on the economy and the middle class?
I think itll be fine. There will be some hardships for some individuals, theres no question about that, but I think that most of the economists predictions are going to be wrong.
If you were sitting in the White House right now and looking to make the Grand Bargain that everyone talks about, what would that look like to you?
Well, the Republicans are never going to do it. First of all, the Obama administration should have never left all of that revenue on the table for people earning under $400,000 a year. What I would do is I would close a bunch of corporate loopholes like get rid of the oil depletion allowance. And I do think you can reform Medicare without cutting benefits. What you need to do is have Medicare become a program where the providers are paid by the patient, not by the procedure. Because the whole system depends on what doctors do, which is ME, a doctor, and we get paid whether it works or not. Its a silly way to pay people.
http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/03/interview-gov-howard-dean-talks-about-gun-control-sequester-and-more.html
Boehner takes sequester victory lap
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022583419
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Way to go, America. Meals on Wheels funding cut by sequestration. Seniors fearful. [View all]
madfloridian
Apr 2013
OP
i think this is what made it sarcasm "mercilessly prosecuted for their crimes"
bobduca
Apr 2013
#107
Obama worked with them on sequestration, and he is pushing Chained CPI and cuts...
madfloridian
Apr 2013
#17
No, your statement is pure bullshit. The problem is with Obama. His "sacrifice" of a whopping 5% of
MotherPetrie
Apr 2013
#18
Damn straight, although I wish that Obama would stop playing the risk game all the time. n/t
AverageJoe90
Apr 2013
#67
I am sorry, but the majority of those people and their children vote for the very
bluestate10
Apr 2013
#21
There is plenty of blame to go around! The major parties are a big part of the problem
mrdmk
Apr 2013
#7
Everyone should google to see how much their state will lose; in my state, MoW will lose $488,000.
pacalo
Apr 2013
#8
Yes, I am sounding negative. It is a negative thing to cut meals seniors depend upon.
madfloridian
Apr 2013
#12
I have noticed more elderly people wintering in my blue state. The trend started during the
bluestate10
Apr 2013
#23
Florida can pass an income tax and an estate tax, and easily pay for the program.
FarCenter
Apr 2013
#43
Of course they could. But that doesn't excuse the behavior of our national Democrats.
madfloridian
Apr 2013
#44
Rick (sociopth) Scott's responsibilities are to his criminal corporate buddies. n/t
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#68
This is terrible. I had a friend who once worked for them and from what she told me
Cleita
Apr 2013
#49
I don't know what they will do? MoW is the only thing keeping them out of a nursing home.
Auntie Bush
Apr 2013
#64
What they are supposed to do, according to plan: DIE. Poverty is the new pandemic.
WinkyDink
Apr 2013
#105
Welcome to America, we're working hard to be #1 at the bottom! Go USA! Go USA! Go USA! n/t
RKP5637
Apr 2013
#53
They were already having financial trouble before this. We have a yearly Good Ol Boat Regatta...
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#54
Not me ...the SPSA club. They were doing this way before I was selected for the board position.
L0oniX
Apr 2013
#72
DU seems pretty close to unanimous that Obama should not agree to cut social security.
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2013
#87
Democrats And Republicans Doing The Bidding Of The 1% - More For Them - Less For The Rest Of Us
cantbeserious
Apr 2013
#88
Guess what, genius? The cuts don't separate people from Party; Democratic seniors will suffer.
WinkyDink
Apr 2013
#106