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ProSense

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80. Guess Howard Dean was wrong
Sun Apr 7, 2013, 05:55 PM
Apr 2013
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Looking at Washington and what’s happening there, you came out saying that you think that the sequester wasn’t necessarily a bad idea and perhaps the only way we can get some military cuts. Are you still feeling that way about things now that the sequester has gone into effect?
I am. I mean the House, of course, added some of it back, but I don’t think the Senate will allow that to happen. Look, the military has gotten enormous. They don’t ever cut it and they just keep adding to it. The Congress gives the military stuff the military doesn’t even want. And it was never going to get cut by either the Democrats or the Republicans if they had to vote on the cuts. So, I see this as … you know this is doing some damage to things that I care about and to some people that I care about, but the need to get the military cut is just overwhelming because nothing’s been done for 25, 30 years. So, I think that the military needs to be cut. A lot of the baggage that the Congress put in there needs to be taken out. They need to make some tough decisions between weapons systems instead of just getting everything and that’s what the sequester’s going to do.

So, again, it’s not ideal but, given that they don’t have the guts to cut the military in Congress, this is the best way to get it done.

What’s your prediction about the sequester’s impact on the economy and the middle class?
I think it’ll be fine. There will be some hardships for some individuals, there’s no question about that, but I think that most of the economists’ predictions are going to be wrong.

If you were sitting in the White House right now and looking to make the “Grand Bargain” that everyone talks about, what would that look like to you?
Well, the Republicans are never going to do it. First of all, the Obama administration should have never left all of that revenue on the table for people earning under $400,000 a year. What I would do is I would close a bunch of corporate loopholes like get rid of the oil depletion allowance. And I do think you can reform Medicare without cutting benefits. What you need to do is have Medicare become a program where the providers are paid by the patient, not by the procedure. Because the whole system depends on what doctors do, which is ME, a doctor, and we get paid whether it works or not. It’s a silly way to pay people.

http://www.eclectablog.com/2013/03/interview-gov-howard-dean-talks-about-gun-control-sequester-and-more.html

Boehner takes sequester victory lap
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022583419


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k&r n/t RainDog Apr 2013 #1
Maybe Obama will give up an apple or candy bar in solidarity. forestpath Apr 2013 #2
Or the politicians playing games will give up another 1% of salary.... madfloridian Apr 2013 #4
It's the thought that counts jsr Apr 2013 #6
Cue Willie Nelson: "You Were Always on My Mind" tblue Apr 2013 #19
You forgot the sarcasm tag. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #36
i think this is what made it sarcasm "mercilessly prosecuted for their crimes" bobduca Apr 2013 #107
Yes, I caught that as well :) Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #111
Or a comfortable pair of shoes. hay rick Apr 2013 #9
The problem isn't with President Obama. Your statement is pure bullshit. bluestate10 Apr 2013 #14
OK, maybe he'll give up a piece of pie. forestpath Apr 2013 #16
Obama worked with them on sequestration, and he is pushing Chained CPI and cuts... madfloridian Apr 2013 #17
No, your statement is pure bullshit. The problem is with Obama. His "sacrifice" of a whopping 5% of MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #18
Patronizing pscot Apr 2013 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author forestpath Apr 2013 #94
5% of his public salary. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #91
Plus 100 Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #51
+9 million treestar Apr 2013 #59
Damn straight, although I wish that Obama would stop playing the risk game all the time. n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #67
He can donate them to a food bank!!!! MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #15
Maybe the Republicans will grow a mercymechap Apr 2013 #27
I doubt it! Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #52
More likely, he will open another military base in the Middle East JDPriestly Apr 2013 #78
... Initech Apr 2013 #3
Everyone who is not Newest Reality Apr 2013 #5
When people are old and ill, they are scared when they hear about cuts. madfloridian Apr 2013 #10
Exactly! Stop scaring us and protect our safety net! tblue Apr 2013 #20
I am sorry, but the majority of those people and their children vote for the very bluestate10 Apr 2013 #21
Because Democrats seem to stand for the same things as the GOP. madfloridian Apr 2013 #29
Agree Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #77
That was true until Obama. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #79
There is plenty of blame to go around! The major parties are a big part of the problem mrdmk Apr 2013 #7
Everyone should google to see how much their state will lose; in my state, MoW will lose $488,000. pacalo Apr 2013 #8
In America we let poor hungry kids go and sitdown Rex Apr 2013 #11
Yes, I am sounding negative. It is a negative thing to cut meals seniors depend upon. madfloridian Apr 2013 #12
Me too, sweetie. Me too. tblue Apr 2013 #22
I agree. madfloridian Apr 2013 #30
Amen. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #32
Thank you. I saw heartbreaking stuff this week. madfloridian Apr 2013 #33
Oh Hell yes! 99Forever Apr 2013 #38
So did those seniors vote for Republicans? treestar Apr 2013 #60
Yes, it is all the fault of the seniors. madfloridian Apr 2013 #62
Yes, if they voted Republican. treestar Apr 2013 #70
If I believed in a deity defacto7 Apr 2013 #13
I have noticed more elderly people wintering in my blue state. The trend started during the bluestate10 Apr 2013 #23
California? n/t. airplaneman Apr 2013 #24
It's diabolical, isnt' it? ReRe Apr 2013 #25
How can a politician wear a "I Stopped Meals-on-Wheels" button and think mercymechap Apr 2013 #28
No politician will advertise they supported these cuts. intheflow Apr 2013 #37
We need to make them vote and get it on record! Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #55
We should take a lesson Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2013 #26
That is so sad. madfloridian Apr 2013 #31
kr HiPointDem Apr 2013 #34
Thanks. madfloridian Apr 2013 #35
Sequestration may mean hard times for Meals on Wheels madfloridian Apr 2013 #39
It's a local problem; Florida should step up to fund the difference FarCenter Apr 2013 #40
It's a serious national problem. No one cares. madfloridian Apr 2013 #41
Florida can pass an income tax and an estate tax, and easily pay for the program. FarCenter Apr 2013 #43
Of course they could. But that doesn't excuse the behavior of our national Democrats. madfloridian Apr 2013 #44
NY, for example, sends the Feds $4502 per capita more than it gets back. FarCenter Apr 2013 #47
Backing off. madfloridian Apr 2013 #50
They chose a red governor treestar Apr 2013 #61
Yes, it is all the fault of the seniors. madfloridian Apr 2013 #65
Yes, if they voted Republican treestar Apr 2013 #66
You said: "How can I be so unreasonable?" madfloridian Apr 2013 #73
Rick (sociopth) Scott's responsibilities are to his criminal corporate buddies. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #68
I spent yesterday with my senior citizen mom. LWolf Apr 2013 #42
I saw so much of that this week. madfloridian Apr 2013 #45
I am your mother! Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #57
I feel exactly the same way. LWolf Apr 2013 #63
From rural Michigan...cuts to Meals on Wheels will hurt. madfloridian Apr 2013 #46
I would wager a bet..... llmart Apr 2013 #76
That makes 3 on this thread blaming the seniors. madfloridian Apr 2013 #84
I am both a senior and live in Michigan..... llmart Apr 2013 #101
I think you misunderstood. mercymechap Apr 2013 #104
Hell yeh, I am one of them. madfloridian Apr 2013 #109
k&r nt steve2470 Apr 2013 #48
This is terrible. I had a friend who once worked for them and from what she told me Cleita Apr 2013 #49
I don't know what they will do? MoW is the only thing keeping them out of a nursing home. Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #64
What they are supposed to do, according to plan: DIE. Poverty is the new pandemic. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #105
Welcome to America, we're working hard to be #1 at the bottom! Go USA! Go USA! Go USA! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #53
They were already having financial trouble before this. We have a yearly Good Ol Boat Regatta... L0oniX Apr 2013 #54
I had to look up your group....what a great thing to do. madfloridian Apr 2013 #56
Here's to you. Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #69
Not me ...the SPSA club. They were doing this way before I was selected for the board position. L0oniX Apr 2013 #72
It is the fault of the Republicans, as they are fine with it. treestar Apr 2013 #58
The Corporate Party of America fredamae Apr 2013 #71
US government = fail CrispyQ Apr 2013 #74
I thought I heard the sequester was a fizzle. DCBob Apr 2013 #75
Guess Howard Dean was wrong ProSense Apr 2013 #80
He is often wrong since he resumed his centrist ways. madfloridian Apr 2013 #83
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #81
Hey! Betty Crocker cashed in on it as an opportunity! glinda Apr 2013 #82
SEND A COPY TO PENN. AVENUE with a (false) headline like: Amonester Apr 2013 #85
Truth not bad enough for ya? Damn. :-/ n/t DeSwiss Apr 2013 #86
DU seems pretty close to unanimous that Obama should not agree to cut social security. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #87
Democrats And Republicans Doing The Bidding Of The 1% - More For Them - Less For The Rest Of Us cantbeserious Apr 2013 #88
how much are they spending in Afghanistan every day? Win-the-fight Apr 2013 #90
kick woo me with science Apr 2013 #92
Once again, any senior who depends on these programs, Zoeisright Apr 2013 #93
You make 4 in this thread who are blaming seniors. madfloridian Apr 2013 #99
Guess what, genius? The cuts don't separate people from Party; Democratic seniors will suffer. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #106
knr "Shame on both parties for these shenanigans ..." !!! nt slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #95
k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #96
I don't know about the meals pipi_k Apr 2013 #97
Meals on Wheels here are good quality. madfloridian Apr 2013 #98
Like I clearly pipi_k Apr 2013 #102
I hear you, loud and clear (k&r) (nt) Babel_17 Apr 2013 #100
k & r snagglepuss Apr 2013 #103
Hey, now! It's going to be BALANCED by TAXES on the Rich! EQUAL SACRIFICE!! WinkyDink Apr 2013 #108
Still looking for pictures of kittens... hay rick Apr 2013 #110
So glad to see the number of tweets on this thread. madfloridian Apr 2013 #112
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