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Andy823

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12. Thanks for the post

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 08:17 PM

Apr 2013

I tend to agree with Mr. Klein and Mr. Sota, however a lot of poster here on DU seem to think the world is coming to an end, and it's all president Obama's fault for "caving" in. Be prepared to be attacked, even though you make a lot of sense. I myself want to actually see what it is the president is putting out in his budget. I hear it's coming out on Wednesday. I plan on waiting till I hit 65, 3 more years, before applying for SS, so I am concerned about what may happen, but I won't jump the gun until the facts come out, and like the article says, I to know that the republicans are not going to go for whatever it is the president puts out, they just won't. Until it's all said and done I really think we should see just what the plan really is, and not let the right wing talking heads in the media get us all worked up for what is most likely nothing at all!

Just my opinion.

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To answer a lot of people's questions [View all] jazzimov Apr 2013 OP

Rationalizations Don't Work For Me Anymore - Stand Up For What Is Right - Grow A Spine cantbeserious Apr 2013 #1

How is this a rationalization? jazzimov Apr 2013 #2

Clearly A Spinning Of The Facts And Position To Paint The Picture Of Strategy Where None Really Exists cantbeserious Apr 2013 #4

Yea, Ezra Klein does that all the time. nt babylonsister Apr 2013 #6

FACTS are FACTS. You can't spin them. Cha Apr 2013 #66

Au Contraire - Washington Is The Center Of Fact To Fiction And Fiction To Fact Spinning cantbeserious Apr 2013 #69

Not FACTS. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own set of FACTS. Cha Apr 2013 #70

Fact - Obama Plans To Change SS Which Will Harm Senior Citizens - Spin That cantbeserious Apr 2013 #71

I don't have to spin anything. I appreciate the OP for bringing Cha Apr 2013 #72

Non Responsive To The Facts cantbeserious Apr 2013 #75

Damn right. Nt newfie11 Apr 2013 #3

Thanks for the article and babylonsister Apr 2013 #5

Voice Of Reason - Is Getting Caught Trying Reasonable - Please, This Must Be Sarcasm cantbeserious Apr 2013 #7

Hey. Don't tell me what I'm trying to say or what I think. babylonsister Apr 2013 #8

Reasonable To Me Would Have Been The Progressive Caucus Budget - Where Is Obama On That Reasonable cantbeserious Apr 2013 #10

And Republicans are going to vote for that..... jazzimov Apr 2013 #20

One Begins With A Strong Position To Force The National Debate - One Does Not Begin Negotiations cantbeserious Apr 2013 #24

Sorry if the facts don't fit your outrage. jazzimov Apr 2013 #9

Not Outraged Here - Just pointing Out That Obama Is Doing The Bidding Of The 1% cantbeserious Apr 2013 #11

The 1% do NOT want this - jazzimov Apr 2013 #15

Of Course The 1% Want This - This Is Proverbial Camel Nose Under The Tent Strategy - Steady Erosion cantbeserious Apr 2013 #17

The 1% know that can't happen now, and so are willing to let Obama have first "stab" at it. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #76

"Sorry if the facts don't fit your outrage." Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #39

Well I suppose we'll have to see, BUT.... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #50

When Daddy knows the other side is holding Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #55

The other side is holding a losing hand?........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #57

His proposals include Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #59

+1000 nt Andy823 Apr 2013 #13

Thanks for the post Andy823 Apr 2013 #12

The Better Starting Position Would Have Been The Progressive Caucus Budget cantbeserious Apr 2013 #14

That is the starting point - for the House. jazzimov Apr 2013 #16

Which Just Proves That He Is Doing The Bidding Of The 1% - One Does Not Compromise At The Start cantbeserious Apr 2013 #18

Negotiations started a long time ago. jazzimov Apr 2013 #22

Well Andy823 Apr 2013 #27

That Is An Old Story - Republicans Are Already Obstructionists - Time To Move On And Take Action cantbeserious Apr 2013 #31

Awesome post! thanks! jazzimov Apr 2013 #26

I'm glad somebody else sees it. n/t GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #19

That Ones Opening Position Is A Compromise - Is That The Best Way To Negotiate? cantbeserious Apr 2013 #21

Again, read the article. nt jazzimov Apr 2013 #23

I Have - "Getting Caught Trying" Is Not A Successful Negotiating Strategy - One Is Perceived As Week cantbeserious Apr 2013 #25

That's what you got? jazzimov Apr 2013 #29

The Republicans Will Never Respond With Something Serious - That's Cannon Fodder For The Press cantbeserious Apr 2013 #33

The conceit in all this Kabuki Theater is that R leaders are rational bobduca Apr 2013 #40

What makes you think there will be any negotiating? GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #30

Yes - Better To Be Bold And Have A National Debate That Exposes The 1% For What They Truly Are cantbeserious Apr 2013 #34

Exactly. jazzimov Apr 2013 #46

If that is the President's reasoning ... dawg Apr 2013 #28

You answered your own question. jazzimov Apr 2013 #32

If he believes he's impressing the public with this then he's delusional. dawg Apr 2013 #36

In a funny way, this does undermine the repugs pretty well bhikkhu Apr 2013 #35

They will say President Obama wanted to cut *your* Social Security ... dawg Apr 2013 #37

Exactly! jazzimov Apr 2013 #49

I don't give a rat's buttocks what games he's playing.... mike_c Apr 2013 #38

The GOP will take the parts they like and ignore all the rest BlueStreak Apr 2013 #41

They can't. jazzimov Apr 2013 #51

Of course they can BlueStreak Apr 2013 #58

True that they EMERGE from the House, jazzimov Apr 2013 #61

It is a lot harder to get that out of the bill once Obama has endorsed it BlueStreak Apr 2013 #63

"it puts the pressure on Republicans to respond with something serious, dgauss Apr 2013 #42

It will push some over the edge. jazzimov Apr 2013 #47

Sorry, you don't put the family jewels on the table, even in a bluff, MadHound Apr 2013 #43

Exactly. It's only because he believes the same thing the GOP does on this and other issues duffyduff Apr 2013 #45

You don't get it at all duffyduff Apr 2013 #44

I'm afraid that you're the one that doesn't "get it". jazzimov Apr 2013 #48

And if nothing gets done?... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #52

In this case, we all go down if this stalemate continues. Hoyt Apr 2013 #54

But everybody else who supports this budget by Obama says........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #56

Duffy gets it just fine Skittles Apr 2013 #60

+1 n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #77

Getting what shit done? pa28 Apr 2013 #62

TPM Editor�s Blog: Obama�s Dangerous Game Babel_17 Apr 2013 #53

sorry. more apologist bs. bbgrunt Apr 2013 #64

Actually, they're just facts. Cha Apr 2013 #68

Not quite: they are puzzle pieces that Klein thinks come together in a certain way... JHB Apr 2013 #78

You suck at sales. /nt Marr Apr 2013 #65

Ezra Klein is an Obama apologist to the end. BlueCheese Apr 2013 #67

oh codswallop. I'm so bored with these nonsensical accusations cali Apr 2013 #79

That's pretty much what I thought. Kablooie Apr 2013 #73

A post denigrating our President gets to the top of the Greatest page Maraya1969 Apr 2013 #74