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jazzimov

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22. Let's talk about what makes sense and what doesn't.

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:17 PM

Apr 2013

The OP suggests that the Chained CPI was a goal in itself. How does that make any sense? Others have suggested that the 1% wanted it simply because they are "evil". How does that make sense?

If you remember, Jr tried to say that SS was in trouble and needed to be "saved" because of all the baby boomers and the reduced younger population. His suggestion was to privatize it and dump all that money into Wall Street. Do you not think that the 1% salivated at that prospect?

There were several other suggestions to "save" SS. One of these was to simply raise the cap. That idea is my personal choice. But Republicans rejected that out of hand because it was a "tax increase". It would have negatively impacted the 1%, plus they wouldn't get their greasy paws on the SS funds.

Another suggestion was to trim SS spending by switching to a Chained CPI. Although it would actually create savings which the Republicans claimed they wanted, it still would keep the 1% from getting their paws on all that SS funding. So, the Chained CPI is a bluff that Republicans will never go for.

Now, which makes more sense - that the 1% want Chained CPI just because they're "evil", or that they want to privatize SS so that they can get the benefit of all those SS funds?

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If you're wondering what Obama gets in exchange for Chained CPI... [View all] Marr Apr 2013 OP

The point of chained CPI is cash flow for the govt w/o the 1% having to pay on point Apr 2013 #1

This. ^^^ CrispyQ Apr 2013 #43

Precisely correct! davekriss Apr 2013 #52

How true. What a shame our President doesn't seem to realize this obvious fact indepat Apr 2013 #65

well, he also IS shanti Apr 2013 #71

Wrong danbeee46 Apr 2013 #72

Guess I should have added that little indepat Apr 2013 #74

Actually, Chained CPI was originally suggested jazzimov Apr 2013 #2

No, what the 1% want is to continually truedelphi Apr 2013 #8

I agree with every word. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #46

Spot on! When my Democratic friends would query BrotherIvan Apr 2013 #53

The Solution Maineman Apr 2013 #63

"it is just made up of sheep inside Wolves Clothing." Plucketeer Apr 2013 #70

That doesn't make any sense. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #11

Let's talk about what makes sense and what doesn't. jazzimov Apr 2013 #22

The op makes since to anyone that has read Will Marshall and the other PPI hacks Dragonfli Apr 2013 #27

And that is how the cookie crumbles. nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #42

Thanks Dragonfli....This is a must read... KoKo Apr 2013 #59

+ My household. n/t truedelphi Apr 2013 #66

It's probably a little of both JDPriestly Apr 2013 #32

No it wasn't. It is just a wound on the way to cutting up the whole victim. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2013 #19

^^^^^^THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT^^^^^ cliffordu Apr 2013 #73

K&R MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #3

Ah but - truedelphi Apr 2013 #4

I don't understand why so many dems have such love of Clinton. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #48

Chained CPI has another effect customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #5

Boehner seems willing to accept it starroute Apr 2013 #14

He no longer leads his party customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #34

DLC/Third Way people are responsible for this, and we need to hang it around their necks and sink Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #6

Nothing but a place from which to start the really meaningful compromises. HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #7

You don't start a compromise with a surrender Armstead Apr 2013 #37

You are absolutely right. -I- wouldn't, but Obama DOES HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #39

Actually, ProSense Apr 2013 #9

Just Proves That The 1% Have Been Pushing This Agenda For Decades - Obama Is Falling For It cantbeserious Apr 2013 #10

Obama is not stupid, he is complicit and premeditated this PufPuf23 Apr 2013 #13

I Agree That This Is Premeditated - With Wall Street - Obama Has Proven His Support For The 1% cantbeserious Apr 2013 #15

Much better budget proposal not to mention political tactics. Thanks. PufPuf23 Apr 2013 #16

This I support and is what real dems should be pushing. Not this rw garbage on point Apr 2013 #25

Exactly Art_from_Ark Apr 2013 #38

K&R Progressive Caucus! xtraxritical Apr 2013 #51

Thank you for this. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #60

Couldn't agree more.. truebrit71 Apr 2013 #17

Welcome. Mine get hidden all of the time. Dawgs Apr 2013 #40

Pres Obama is offering the Chained CPI because it is what the Republicans want. He wouldnt offer rhett o rick Apr 2013 #30

So is it your prediction that Obama will cut a deal with Boehner this time? JoePhilly Apr 2013 #35

Hell no! Where did you get that? Boner wont deal. Why offer him cuts in SS? rhett o rick Apr 2013 #54

Wrong. JoePhilly Apr 2013 #55

Wrong??? Isnt that a bit rude? Because you disagree doesnt make me wrong. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #57

You said ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #62

Pres Obama the leader of the Democratic Party put SS cuts on the table. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #64

The speaker would never accept any of the Presidents plan Larrylarry Apr 2013 #47

There is a second reason Boehner can't accept ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #58

All that texting really hurts, they have a very limited data plan on their smartphones. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #76

Why don't the DLC crowd.... paleotn Apr 2013 #12

Infiltration, and false flag attacks on seniors wouldn't work without the false flag or pretense Dragonfli Apr 2013 #28

Because of their history. They've been wrong about EVERYTHING jeff47 Apr 2013 #29

I have been begging for that since they reared their ugly heads. Cleita Apr 2013 #50

Clinton's join the GOP? O my. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #75

Obama appointed Alan Simpson & Erskine Bowles to his goddamned catfood commission... ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2013 #18

Another post that should be an OP. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #33

+1...and those who early on called it the "Catfood Commission" KoKo Apr 2013 #61

LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE! MNBrewer Apr 2013 #20

Social Security was never brought up during the three 2012 Presidential Debates. DhhD Apr 2013 #21

When will they ever learn that it is NOT their money? nt silvershadow Apr 2013 #23

If he really wanted it, why did he insist on revenue as a non alfredo Apr 2013 #24

I'd add ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #36

And our outrage undercuts their narrative that Obama is unwilling to meet them half way. alfredo Apr 2013 #41

Also true ... JoePhilly Apr 2013 #45

Obama is the master of Rope a Dope. Ali got booed for using that technique, but alfredo Apr 2013 #56

Wasting money by giving it to other countries for war mondering Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2013 #26

RAISE THE CAP. period. Capn Sunshine Apr 2013 #31

What does he get? It couldn't be a better retirement plan for himself, could it? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #44

I'm on Social Security. I paid all my bills yesterday. Cleita Apr 2013 #49

Tactics, Schmactics DaveT Apr 2013 #67

Well said-- I could not agree more. Marr Apr 2013 #68

Yep. It took nixon Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #69