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jazzimov

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48. I'm afraid that you're the one that doesn't "get it".

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 10:49 PM

Apr 2013

This isn't about purity tests. This is the real world. This is about real, hard-line negotiations with people who don't want to negotiate or compromise.

This is about getting shit DONE.

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To answer a lot of people's questions [View all] jazzimov Apr 2013 OP

Rationalizations Don't Work For Me Anymore - Stand Up For What Is Right - Grow A Spine cantbeserious Apr 2013 #1

How is this a rationalization? jazzimov Apr 2013 #2

Clearly A Spinning Of The Facts And Position To Paint The Picture Of Strategy Where None Really Exists cantbeserious Apr 2013 #4

Yea, Ezra Klein does that all the time. nt babylonsister Apr 2013 #6

FACTS are FACTS. You can't spin them. Cha Apr 2013 #66

Au Contraire - Washington Is The Center Of Fact To Fiction And Fiction To Fact Spinning cantbeserious Apr 2013 #69

Not FACTS. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own set of FACTS. Cha Apr 2013 #70

Fact - Obama Plans To Change SS Which Will Harm Senior Citizens - Spin That cantbeserious Apr 2013 #71

I don't have to spin anything. I appreciate the OP for bringing Cha Apr 2013 #72

Non Responsive To The Facts cantbeserious Apr 2013 #75

Damn right. Nt newfie11 Apr 2013 #3

Thanks for the article and babylonsister Apr 2013 #5

Voice Of Reason - Is Getting Caught Trying Reasonable - Please, This Must Be Sarcasm cantbeserious Apr 2013 #7

Hey. Don't tell me what I'm trying to say or what I think. babylonsister Apr 2013 #8

Reasonable To Me Would Have Been The Progressive Caucus Budget - Where Is Obama On That Reasonable cantbeserious Apr 2013 #10

And Republicans are going to vote for that..... jazzimov Apr 2013 #20

One Begins With A Strong Position To Force The National Debate - One Does Not Begin Negotiations cantbeserious Apr 2013 #24

Sorry if the facts don't fit your outrage. jazzimov Apr 2013 #9

Not Outraged Here - Just pointing Out That Obama Is Doing The Bidding Of The 1% cantbeserious Apr 2013 #11

The 1% do NOT want this - jazzimov Apr 2013 #15

Of Course The 1% Want This - This Is Proverbial Camel Nose Under The Tent Strategy - Steady Erosion cantbeserious Apr 2013 #17

The 1% know that can't happen now, and so are willing to let Obama have first "stab" at it. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #76

"Sorry if the facts don't fit your outrage." Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #39

Well I suppose we'll have to see, BUT.... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #50

When Daddy knows the other side is holding Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #55

The other side is holding a losing hand?........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #57

His proposals include Summer Hathaway Apr 2013 #59

+1000 nt Andy823 Apr 2013 #13

Thanks for the post Andy823 Apr 2013 #12

The Better Starting Position Would Have Been The Progressive Caucus Budget cantbeserious Apr 2013 #14

That is the starting point - for the House. jazzimov Apr 2013 #16

Which Just Proves That He Is Doing The Bidding Of The 1% - One Does Not Compromise At The Start cantbeserious Apr 2013 #18

Negotiations started a long time ago. jazzimov Apr 2013 #22

Well Andy823 Apr 2013 #27

That Is An Old Story - Republicans Are Already Obstructionists - Time To Move On And Take Action cantbeserious Apr 2013 #31

Awesome post! thanks! jazzimov Apr 2013 #26

I'm glad somebody else sees it. n/t GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #19

That Ones Opening Position Is A Compromise - Is That The Best Way To Negotiate? cantbeserious Apr 2013 #21

Again, read the article. nt jazzimov Apr 2013 #23

I Have - "Getting Caught Trying" Is Not A Successful Negotiating Strategy - One Is Perceived As Week cantbeserious Apr 2013 #25

That's what you got? jazzimov Apr 2013 #29

The Republicans Will Never Respond With Something Serious - That's Cannon Fodder For The Press cantbeserious Apr 2013 #33

The conceit in all this Kabuki Theater is that R leaders are rational bobduca Apr 2013 #40

What makes you think there will be any negotiating? GoCubsGo Apr 2013 #30

Yes - Better To Be Bold And Have A National Debate That Exposes The 1% For What They Truly Are cantbeserious Apr 2013 #34

Exactly. jazzimov Apr 2013 #46

If that is the President's reasoning ... dawg Apr 2013 #28

You answered your own question. jazzimov Apr 2013 #32

If he believes he's impressing the public with this then he's delusional. dawg Apr 2013 #36

In a funny way, this does undermine the repugs pretty well bhikkhu Apr 2013 #35

They will say President Obama wanted to cut *your* Social Security ... dawg Apr 2013 #37

Exactly! jazzimov Apr 2013 #49

I don't give a rat's buttocks what games he's playing.... mike_c Apr 2013 #38

The GOP will take the parts they like and ignore all the rest BlueStreak Apr 2013 #41

They can't. jazzimov Apr 2013 #51

Of course they can BlueStreak Apr 2013 #58

True that they EMERGE from the House, jazzimov Apr 2013 #61

It is a lot harder to get that out of the bill once Obama has endorsed it BlueStreak Apr 2013 #63

"it puts the pressure on Republicans to respond with something serious, dgauss Apr 2013 #42

It will push some over the edge. jazzimov Apr 2013 #47

Sorry, you don't put the family jewels on the table, even in a bluff, MadHound Apr 2013 #43

Exactly. It's only because he believes the same thing the GOP does on this and other issues duffyduff Apr 2013 #45

You don't get it at all duffyduff Apr 2013 #44

I'm afraid that you're the one that doesn't "get it". jazzimov Apr 2013 #48

And if nothing gets done?... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #52

In this case, we all go down if this stalemate continues. Hoyt Apr 2013 #54

But everybody else who supports this budget by Obama says........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #56

Duffy gets it just fine Skittles Apr 2013 #60

+1 n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #77

Getting what shit done? pa28 Apr 2013 #62

TPM Editor�s Blog: Obama�s Dangerous Game Babel_17 Apr 2013 #53

sorry. more apologist bs. bbgrunt Apr 2013 #64

Actually, they're just facts. Cha Apr 2013 #68

Not quite: they are puzzle pieces that Klein thinks come together in a certain way... JHB Apr 2013 #78

You suck at sales. /nt Marr Apr 2013 #65

Ezra Klein is an Obama apologist to the end. BlueCheese Apr 2013 #67

oh codswallop. I'm so bored with these nonsensical accusations cali Apr 2013 #79

That's pretty much what I thought. Kablooie Apr 2013 #73

A post denigrating our President gets to the top of the Greatest page Maraya1969 Apr 2013 #74