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SCVDem

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133. Lament. A very interesting word.

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:06 PM

Apr 2013

1. To express grief for or about; mourn: lament a death.
2. To regret deeply; deplore: He lamented his thoughtless acts.
v.intr.
1. To grieve audibly; wail.
2. To express sorrow or regret. See Synonyms at grieve.
n.
1. A feeling or an expression of grief; a lamentation.
2. A song or poem expressing deep grief or mourning.

When we can no longer offer good tidings or compliments without worry of overblown repurcussion, then surely as a country we have lost civility. That is my lament and why I was the OP.

I have common courtesy for men and women! I hate that to be nice is now a problem for some.

Just a thought. Why do women spend an hour to "look nice" before they go out? Seriously, after all that time, what are you looking for? A compliment of appreciation of course! That's fine.

Men and women are differnt. A compliment isn't a problem. President Obama had called Ken Salazar a nice looking man.

The original hype lasted two days, but this is a bigger problem.

Why is a compliment a problem, but controlling a womans health and reproductive rights doesn't get a blip?

Look! Another shiny object!

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Regarding: All In discussion on complimenting a woman (Obama) [View all] SCVDem Apr 2013 OP

No matter what one says or does, it seems that a feminist will be offended TimberValley Apr 2013 #1

can you name just one 'group' that agrees on everything, all the time? Whisp Apr 2013 #36

Some might say we are human, Jamastiene Apr 2013 #53

Heaven's Gate cult? Major Nikon Apr 2013 #68

You got that right. They want to be feminists until some dude tells 'em, "gee you look nice." Then demosincebirth Apr 2013 #37

Name a feminist who complains of the lack of it treestar Apr 2013 #74

^^^ Iggo Apr 2013 #89

It's about context BainsBane Apr 2013 #2

So Kamala Harris is not a friend of Obama's? dkf Apr 2013 #26

the context is making public remarks in a "professional setting". No one is talking about banter bettyellen Apr 2013 #28

it was an introduction to the public BainsBane Apr 2013 #49

Didnt he do the same thing in the same speech for another woman? dkf Apr 2013 #51

I have no idea BainsBane Apr 2013 #64

If you're introducing your own wife protect our future Apr 2013 #72

Did she complain about it? If not, then that's all that matters. Women are sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #105

well, golly gee sabrina, you are there to chew any woman out if she does complain about it, right? seabeyond Apr 2013 #110

I am there to respect a woman who I have no doubt, is capable of speaking sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #113

yup. that. never see you stand up for women, only about bashing women on du. seabeyond Apr 2013 #115

I'm standing up for a woman right now. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #120

Excellent summary. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #95

you sound kind of pathetic JI7 Apr 2013 #3

If your courtesy is so conditional, then how much is it really worth? nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #4

that's the thing that stands out with some of these JI7 Apr 2013 #7

Very little, since it's so conditional on reward. freshwest Apr 2013 #63

This whole issue is just so bizarre DollarBillHines Apr 2013 #5

the "hysteria" is invented BainsBane Apr 2013 #9

I don't have any 'interests'. DollarBillHines Apr 2013 #10

apology accepted BainsBane Apr 2013 #13

Except.. she`s lying... opiate69 Apr 2013 #16

"Benevolent sexism" was the way Susan Rice was treated after Benghazi... dkf Apr 2013 #30

defended, and rightfully so. no one was "protecting" her from anything. bettyellen Apr 2013 #35

Did you see George W. Bush do that for Colin Powell? dkf Apr 2013 #50

you realize the people and situations (and not just the genders) were different, right? bettyellen Apr 2013 #56

no but i did see hillary clinton do it for obama La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #126

At the same time theKed Apr 2013 #99

It's one thing to compliment a person on their clothes and looks Matariki Apr 2013 #22

When is it warranted? treestar Apr 2013 #76

Thank you! I find it bizarre as well. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #141

Is that how President CPI wants to be spoken of? I doubt it. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #6

he didn't single out "female" so it would include among men also JI7 Apr 2013 #8

Two things SCVDem Apr 2013 #11

a true gentleman holds the door open for men and women JI7 Apr 2013 #14

Surely that implies that at most 50% of men can behave in gentlemanly fashion? Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #31

Since doors now usually come in pairs with an outer and inner door, I've found that the new norm... JVS Apr 2013 #140

As evidenced by your pissy rant. Matariki Apr 2013 #20

Why should a gentleman BainsBane Apr 2013 #21

+1 Squinch Apr 2013 #128

"I was raised to be a gentleman" MattBaggins Apr 2013 #61

Try to get past it treestar Apr 2013 #77

Since one little media story causes you such outrage you must announce this: freshwest Apr 2013 #12

By request SCVDem Apr 2013 #15

I don't take my cues from the GOP or some panel. There was a huge fuss made in the NYT of a rocket freshwest Apr 2013 #19

Hmm.. got any links? opiate69 Apr 2013 #23

It was a DU piece decrying her, was on the latest or greatest. I didn't comment, SSDD. freshwest Apr 2013 #32

Well.. seeing as how obits are usually written by family members, I would like to see the original.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #33

The NYT edited the obit after a general furor Small Accumulates Apr 2013 #109

Well said. n/t Jamastiene Apr 2013 #55

Hey SCVDem - who gives a shit? Matariki Apr 2013 #17

it was stupid. he was stupid for doing it. he was doing a stupid man thing and had no place seabeyond Apr 2013 #18

"stupid man thing." Care to expand? nt msanthrope Apr 2013 #134

I hear where you coming from. 99Forever Apr 2013 #24

Aww, R U mad? CTyankee Apr 2013 #41

Why would I give a fuck ... 99Forever Apr 2013 #42

Is is sad when irony cannot be discerned... CTyankee Apr 2013 #43

IT is even sadder... 99Forever Apr 2013 #44

I guess I'll have to give back my Master's Degree... CTyankee Apr 2013 #45

Uh huh 99Forever Apr 2013 #48

will do! In the meantime, try hard to overcome being "irony deficient." CTyankee Apr 2013 #65

Thank you ... 99Forever Apr 2013 #82

all in good fun... CTyankee Apr 2013 #93

+1 99Forever Apr 2013 #101

And yet here you are. Squinch Apr 2013 #100

Someone put you in charge of .. 99Forever Apr 2013 #103

I never said where and what you can post. YOU said you refused to comment on any gender issues Squinch Apr 2013 #107

Ahh... I see... 99Forever Apr 2013 #114

Well, no. Obviously I wasn't. Squinch Apr 2013 #116

Then exactly what was the point of your snarky reply? 99Forever Apr 2013 #118

See my post #107 to you. You'll find the answer to your question there. Squinch Apr 2013 #122

LOL... that exchange reminded me of Steve Buscemi in Fargo. redqueen Apr 2013 #138

I love that movie! Squinch Apr 2013 #146

Does honoring others wishes to be treated professionally really make you this angry??? bettyellen Apr 2013 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author LittleBlue Apr 2013 #27

Don't be nice to get a reaction from others demwing Apr 2013 #29

yay! we win! Whisp Apr 2013 #34

Even if you disagree with the sentiment, why would you respond that way? DirkGently Apr 2013 #38

I first heard this on the car radio with no reference to the actual remark tularetom Apr 2013 #39

You don't comment on ANY persons looks in a professional setting MattBaggins Apr 2013 #62

Goodness, are you going to slam a door and stomp away, too? CTyankee Apr 2013 #40

Good one! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #143

So what about all the swooning over Gavin Newsom's good looks? Cleita Apr 2013 #46

If the president was the one to compliment him during a public speech, I could equate the two. antigone382 Apr 2013 #131

You're the best-looking poster on DU! ;-) WinkyDink Apr 2013 #47

No love lost there. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #52

i'm an intelligent woman, but i have DesertFlower Apr 2013 #54

Lucky you mercuryblues Apr 2013 #57

I feel sad that I have to ask this, protect our future Apr 2013 #58

I think when you're talking about your own partner it is acceptable... antigone382 Apr 2013 #132

Thank you. I agree. I wonder, however, protect our future Apr 2013 #137

Well, I suspect that many are conflating disagreement with furor... antigone382 Apr 2013 #147

Oh my god MattBaggins Apr 2013 #59

You seem pretty quick to cave. Rex Apr 2013 #60

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #66

I have a family full of men who are Feminists. They don't seem to feel that way... CTyankee Apr 2013 #67

It really isn't complicated . . . markpkessinger Apr 2013 #69

So even if it's your own wife and protect our future Apr 2013 #71

Wait a minute! Obama's married to her? What happened to Michelle? Squinch Apr 2013 #102

I wonder why. Perhaps some posters here protect our future Apr 2013 #106

I don't see it as a contradiction. Squinch Apr 2013 #112

I've been asking if it is inappropriate protect our future Apr 2013 #117

The answer is that personal comments are appropriate when you have Squinch Apr 2013 #119

So if there is a personal relationship--"personal" protect our future Apr 2013 #129

Oh, blow it out your ear. What the hell?? Squinch Apr 2013 #130

Baloney treestar Apr 2013 #79

Obama apologized. You have a problem with that? boston bean Apr 2013 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Apr 2013 #84

Who cares?!?! Quantess Apr 2013 #70

That is actually a good idea treestar Apr 2013 #73

Patriarchal heresy detected in Neutral Speech Zone #710 Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #75

LOL! protect our future Apr 2013 #78

You must really hate obama for apologizing boston bean Apr 2013 #81

If you are making an introduction of an accomplished woman boston bean Apr 2013 #80

Aw. Iggo Apr 2013 #85

Again, another male does something sexist boston bean Apr 2013 #86

Team MRA is really worked up over this one. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #88

*Groan* smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #144

Perhaps you should listen to women instead of whining about how those uppity women geek tragedy Apr 2013 #87

Maybe he should, maybe he should stop listening the minority of women who sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #108

I think there is a big difference between - "nice dress" and "she is the best looking AG" DrDan Apr 2013 #90

+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #91

-2 boston bean Apr 2013 #92

No matter how important you think you are, you only get one vote. Try "-1" and a dose of ... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #94

-3 boston bean Apr 2013 #96

... and a dose of ... Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #97

-5 boston bean Apr 2013 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author protect our future Apr 2013 #111

OH NO! You've had enough of this crap??? Squinch Apr 2013 #98

i know. i doubt i can live without the compliments of one random person on du La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #125

aww. such drama. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #121

Now, now. LP. It's not as if your life on DU has been devoid of drama. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #123

this post is inherently bigoted as it lumps all women in one category La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #124

Points well taken! As always. However, let me offer this: Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #127

it's not just the drama, its the drama to justify the bigotry La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2013 #142

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #145

Lament. A very interesting word. SCVDem Apr 2013 #133

why do men and boys primp? i am watching two teen age sons right now that cannot seabeyond Apr 2013 #135

Hissies is a sexist insult The Straight Story Apr 2013 #136

LOL redqueen Apr 2013 #139