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cvoogt

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41. not golden

Sun Apr 7, 2013, 11:42 PM

Apr 2013

I certainly don't ascribe to that. What I don't get about the RW is their insistence on relying on charity over the common good, err, welfare / socialism. I guess the latter are dirty words.

We are the proverbial frog in a frying pan. The gap between rich and poor is growing rapidly, and the rich mostly don't care or actively despise the 'others'. The West in general is in a position to take care of the needy, and in liberal Europe that does happen, though less than it used to, but somehow I think our American individualism and Calvinist roots continue to make that hard to achieve here, when we could do (and have done) great things here given the collective willpower. Instead we're contemplating cutting SS benefits - WTF?

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Poverty...it's not sexy [View all] nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 OP

and we're lucky cvoogt Apr 2013 #1

that is a rw talking point nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #3

thanks cvoogt Apr 2013 #24

Dude, I have seen the same conditions here in the US that you speak of. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #37

I hear ya cvoogt Apr 2013 #40

Until recently, we also had a much better social safety net, deutsey Apr 2013 #47

I don't think so either.n/t Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #48

tool of oppression? cvoogt Apr 2013 #27

Ok, let me explain this as basically as I can nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #32

Yeah, I know about all that cvoogt Apr 2013 #33

Because they are lazy bastards, and not among the chosen few nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #35

It's not laziness cvoogt Apr 2013 #39

Really? One of five American children go to bed hungry every night. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #6

A point that needs to be at the front of the entitlement and tax cut for the wealthy discussions.... midnight Apr 2013 #13

Need to sit down nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #19

I have been poor in America. cvoogt Apr 2013 #21

It is not that you think it is a RW talking point nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #34

Seen poverty in Appalachia cvoogt Apr 2013 #36

not golden cvoogt Apr 2013 #41

Very good post and you sound like a wonderful person. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #46

good point cvoogt Apr 2013 #25

That was true back in the fifties. Today our homeless are no better off than Cleita Apr 2013 #8

Sorry, I posted your sentiments (almost exactly) etherealtruth Apr 2013 #12

No need to apologize. The more posts. The more reinforcement of the truth. eom Cleita Apr 2013 #15

Alas, I am not even speaking of homeless nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #20

I agree cvoogt Apr 2013 #22

The Fascists Koch Brothers and Goldman Sachs are responsible for poverty everywhere Win-the-fight Apr 2013 #28

They pulled a slow one on us cvoogt Apr 2013 #30

Because it was a different form of poverty nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #31

Oh for the love of Pete etherealtruth Apr 2013 #10

hmm cvoogt Apr 2013 #23

... Aristus Apr 2013 #14

+1n/t Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #38

Water...It's not dry. n/t zappaman Apr 2013 #2

Also, being poor is not something people like or want. ananda Apr 2013 #4

So, you're hiring pintobean Apr 2013 #5

I imagine if Nadin had a business she would pay fair wages. But that would sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #7

Excellent post (nt) Tumbulu Apr 2013 #9

I am cvoogt Apr 2013 #26

K&R midnight Apr 2013 #11

Thank you. Nadine, you are my hero. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #16

Trst me, the heroes are the ones going on a hunger strike nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #18

No, it isn't. Beacool Apr 2013 #17

All those poor people are just "poutragers." woo me with science Apr 2013 #29

Fuckin A! TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #42

I hear so many on the other side, and some on our side, talk about how bad it is not... Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #43

Mayor Maureen O'Connor many decades back nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #44

Being a Medic, I have no dout that you saw more than your fair share. Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #45